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<blockquote data-quote="Ralts Bloodthorne" data-source="post: 1536001" data-attributes="member: 6390"><p>Well, SEAL Team Orc that was not, from what I saw...</p><p>The cliff was a little bogus, I'll grant that, but not a game killer.</p><p></p><p></p><p>OK, time to hear from the Powergamer DM...</p><p>First of all, your heading toward: "We then continued with our plan to infiltrate the orc keep to the southwest." and are suprised when the "SEAL Team Orc. 16 orcs, each of them 4th level fighters or rangers, with their chainmail stowed in their packs (so it wouldn't make noise) and wearing Masterwork Studded Leather, and cross-classed ranks in Move Silently and Hide, snuck up on our campsite and ambushed us. "</p><p></p><p>Hmmm, I guess, in part of your desire to return to ROLE-Playing, the monsters should suddenly become retarded, clomp around, and act like doofuses? Players can do it, so can the monsters. It's the flip side of the "The is no DM specific material in 3.x E" that everyone seems so enamored with lately.</p><p>While the numbers were high (16 of them) for the 9 of you, it wasn't unheard of, and sometimes, you get ambushed and cut apart in real life too.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, let me stop this before I get started.</p><p></p><p>Reading that, I think that while some of the problem has to do with the GM, some of it lies with you, and the rest lies with the both of you.</p><p>Incompatible playing style.</p><p>Complaints over a tough, VERY hard encounter.</p><p>Bad call on the blizzard.</p><p>Comparing your DMing style with his.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I'd like to hear about the second game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ralts Bloodthorne, post: 1536001, member: 6390"] Well, SEAL Team Orc that was not, from what I saw... The cliff was a little bogus, I'll grant that, but not a game killer. OK, time to hear from the Powergamer DM... First of all, your heading toward: "We then continued with our plan to infiltrate the orc keep to the southwest." and are suprised when the "SEAL Team Orc. 16 orcs, each of them 4th level fighters or rangers, with their chainmail stowed in their packs (so it wouldn't make noise) and wearing Masterwork Studded Leather, and cross-classed ranks in Move Silently and Hide, snuck up on our campsite and ambushed us. " Hmmm, I guess, in part of your desire to return to ROLE-Playing, the monsters should suddenly become retarded, clomp around, and act like doofuses? Players can do it, so can the monsters. It's the flip side of the "The is no DM specific material in 3.x E" that everyone seems so enamored with lately. While the numbers were high (16 of them) for the 9 of you, it wasn't unheard of, and sometimes, you get ambushed and cut apart in real life too. Anyway, let me stop this before I get started. Reading that, I think that while some of the problem has to do with the GM, some of it lies with you, and the rest lies with the both of you. Incompatible playing style. Complaints over a tough, VERY hard encounter. Bad call on the blizzard. Comparing your DMing style with his. Personally, I'd like to hear about the second game. [/QUOTE]
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