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<blockquote data-quote="Zappo" data-source="post: 1545325" data-attributes="member: 633"><p>Ah, ok - I thought we were still on the implied setting. Anyway, this sorta depends on the point of view. The way I see it, having more detail in character design leads to better roleplaying, for example because I can now represent a professional diplomat | casanova | non-spellcasting scholar | nobleman, while before 3E this was simply impossible without reworking the rules. Again, notice that systems that are praised for good roleplaying tend to have a large amount of details. Even D10 has more combat rules than most people think.As I've widely explained in this thread, I don't think that's true. IMO, the roleplaying aspect in 3E is at worst not decreased, and at best increased.I've welcomed this "over-regulation" with open arms, and I'm the DM. I was sick and tired of 2E adventures and plots where every other NPC had access to magic that broke the rules. What do you tell the players when, after defeating the BBEG, they want to make their own floating castle? Or defend their fortress with doors that are impossible to open with anything short of a wish or the right password? Or have permanent spells that cannot be dispelled? Answer: you tell them something lame that equals to "it was a plot device, you can't have it", thus kicking suspension of disbelief in the nuts. The mystery lies in the PCs not knowing the explanation to something - but if the explanation doesn't even exist, that's no mystery, it's just lameness.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zappo, post: 1545325, member: 633"] Ah, ok - I thought we were still on the implied setting. Anyway, this sorta depends on the point of view. The way I see it, having more detail in character design leads to better roleplaying, for example because I can now represent a professional diplomat | casanova | non-spellcasting scholar | nobleman, while before 3E this was simply impossible without reworking the rules. Again, notice that systems that are praised for good roleplaying tend to have a large amount of details. Even D10 has more combat rules than most people think.As I've widely explained in this thread, I don't think that's true. IMO, the roleplaying aspect in 3E is at worst not decreased, and at best increased.I've welcomed this "over-regulation" with open arms, and I'm the DM. I was sick and tired of 2E adventures and plots where every other NPC had access to magic that broke the rules. What do you tell the players when, after defeating the BBEG, they want to make their own floating castle? Or defend their fortress with doors that are impossible to open with anything short of a wish or the right password? Or have permanent spells that cannot be dispelled? Answer: you tell them something lame that equals to "it was a plot device, you can't have it", thus kicking suspension of disbelief in the nuts. The mystery lies in the PCs not knowing the explanation to something - but if the explanation doesn't even exist, that's no mystery, it's just lameness. [/QUOTE]
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