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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 1546997" data-attributes="member: 1118">I guess because myself and my group are all roleplayers I don't see the same issues in the 3E rulebooks that you do.  I mean, from my perspective I don't see major differences in the books, with respect to roleplaying, than I did with the past editions.I do agree that some of the "fluff" text is missing from some items (kits vs prestige classes) but I don't recall the fluff text in previous editions making me want to roleplay more.As was said before, experiences differ.  I haven't noticed my group slip back into rollplay since 3E came out, others have.  I remember starting to get dissatisfied with roleplaying in general before 3E came out, so maybe those groups that noticed this slide were just going through a "disinterest" phase.I also remember being 12 and starting to play OD&D and we never "roleplayed".  It wasn't until we turned 15 or 16 did we start to delve into those areas, and it's my opinion that's what will happen to the new crop of rollplayers.Edit: Before my words are taken the wrong way again, I'm not picking on young people.  I'm just relating my experience.  It was enough, when I was just starting out, to understand the rules, let alone understand them and roleplay at our current level at the same time.  I'm sure if I was just starting D&D now, I'd be in the same boat</blockquote>