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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5412701" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>What he's saying is that he can't combine some options between a PHB1 Fighter and an Essentials Knight or Slayer (which are also Fighters). Of course you couldn't combine all arbitrary options between existing classes anyway (for example you can't pick both Tempest Fighter and Battle Rage Vigor Fighter from Martial Power, they are mutually exclusive options). So it is actually kind of hard to see exactly where there is any more incompatibility IMHO between Essentials and between other 4e books. Not to start a debate with D4H about it, Essentials stuff is a bit different looking and the builds/classes/subclasses whatever they call them now are a little 'odd' compared to what came before.</p><p></p><p>In terms of playing things at the table there is 100% compatibility though. I don't think a Knight is any more different from a PHB1 Weapon Talent fighter than the Weapon Talent fighter is from say a Swordmage. They play a bit differently, but they all definitely follow the same basic rules. You could swap one out for the other in a party (they are all defenders) and the game will play pretty much the same. </p><p></p><p>So say you are starting out with Essentials, and some guy comes along with an 'old style' character, he can play it, and it will not cause any problems or be unbalanced.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5412701, member: 82106"] What he's saying is that he can't combine some options between a PHB1 Fighter and an Essentials Knight or Slayer (which are also Fighters). Of course you couldn't combine all arbitrary options between existing classes anyway (for example you can't pick both Tempest Fighter and Battle Rage Vigor Fighter from Martial Power, they are mutually exclusive options). So it is actually kind of hard to see exactly where there is any more incompatibility IMHO between Essentials and between other 4e books. Not to start a debate with D4H about it, Essentials stuff is a bit different looking and the builds/classes/subclasses whatever they call them now are a little 'odd' compared to what came before. In terms of playing things at the table there is 100% compatibility though. I don't think a Knight is any more different from a PHB1 Weapon Talent fighter than the Weapon Talent fighter is from say a Swordmage. They play a bit differently, but they all definitely follow the same basic rules. You could swap one out for the other in a party (they are all defenders) and the game will play pretty much the same. So say you are starting out with Essentials, and some guy comes along with an 'old style' character, he can play it, and it will not cause any problems or be unbalanced. [/QUOTE]
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