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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheUltramark" data-source="post: 5542210" data-attributes="member: 6674520">apparently math isn't the strong suit of many at our game.  We ran 3.25 characters for such a long time near, at, and beyond epic it became common place to replace the full roll of attack with all modifiers to simply "over 20" which 95% of the time was good enough to hit whatever beastie was before us.When it became necessary to get higher than 20 for tougher AC's, it was also about the time the attack bonuses became such that "over 30" came into vogueso much so that anything 'cool' IRL gets called "over 20" and really awesome stuff (anything from an awesome scene in a movie to last second TD catch, to a particularly attractive lady walking past) as "over 30"</blockquote>