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<blockquote data-quote="Zhaleskra" data-source="post: 7554323" data-attributes="member: 20544">I didn't &quot;leave&quot; D&amp;D so much as find and learn games that did what I wanted in a more elegant or even simpler way. Having said that, I do feel that sometimes an RPG can be too simple. That is, I don't find &quot;complex rules&quot; = &quot;hard game&quot;, nor do I necessarily find that &quot;rules lite&quot; = &quot;simple game&quot;. The very things that got me interested in RPGs in the first place either no longer matter to me, or I still want them, but I've changed how I want them.I'm very much into different dice types, and now I prefer to only switch out dice types occasionally. As someone who started with AD&amp;D2E, I got tired of having too many subsystems, especially when the subsystems don't use the same mechanic as the rest of the game. I effectively abandoned D&amp;D when 4th edition came out, and I'm not going to trot out one of the old tired reasons. It just wasn't &quot;my D&amp;D&quot; anymore.Over the decades, I have played many RPGs, and I like to stick with ones where I can keep the basic rules in my head, regardless of the overall complexity of the system. I've also grown tired of &quot;the only reason humans are special is their flexibility&quot; which usually doesn't show up mechanically, or &quot;humans are the dominant species even though any one of the other species could have, and would have, wiped them out&quot;. So in &quot;rubber ears aliens&quot; RPGs, I need playing humans to be made interesting or why bother playing one? I'm already human in real life.Of course, as a teenager and college student, I suffered from &quot;shiny new toy syndrome&quot; and I'm paying for it now, by having a lot of RPG books and box sets that do nothing but collect dust. I know I can make money selling some of them, but the rest I'll have to donate. I'm cutting down, and I plan on sticking with HARP, Sentinels Comics RPG, World Tree, and maybe In Nomine. I will play Pathfinder to scratch the D&amp;D itch, and ultimately I think I'm just burned out on changes I don't agree with.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zhaleskra, post: 7554323, member: 20544"] I didn't "leave" D&D so much as find and learn games that did what I wanted in a more elegant or even simpler way. Having said that, I do feel that sometimes an RPG can be too simple. That is, I don't find "complex rules" = "hard game", nor do I necessarily find that "rules lite" = "simple game". The very things that got me interested in RPGs in the first place either no longer matter to me, or I still want them, but I've changed how I want them. I'm very much into different dice types, and now I prefer to only switch out dice types occasionally. As someone who started with AD&D2E, I got tired of having too many subsystems, especially when the subsystems don't use the same mechanic as the rest of the game. I effectively abandoned D&D when 4th edition came out, and I'm not going to trot out one of the old tired reasons. It just wasn't "my D&D" anymore. Over the decades, I have played many RPGs, and I like to stick with ones where I can keep the basic rules in my head, regardless of the overall complexity of the system. I've also grown tired of "the only reason humans are special is their flexibility" which usually doesn't show up mechanically, or "humans are the dominant species even though any one of the other species could have, and would have, wiped them out". So in "rubber ears aliens" RPGs, I need playing humans to be made interesting or why bother playing one? I'm already human in real life. Of course, as a teenager and college student, I suffered from "shiny new toy syndrome" and I'm paying for it now, by having a lot of RPG books and box sets that do nothing but collect dust. I know I can make money selling some of them, but the rest I'll have to donate. I'm cutting down, and I plan on sticking with HARP, Sentinels Comics RPG, World Tree, and maybe In Nomine. I will play Pathfinder to scratch the D&D itch, and ultimately I think I'm just burned out on changes I don't agree with. [/QUOTE]

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