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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cbatt" data-source="post: 457364" data-attributes="member: 1563">From d20 based games, I love the Massive Damage rules presented in d20 Modern (and derived from d20 CoC).  And they're immediately portable to D3D if I want to use them.  Is WP/VP superior?  I don't really know anymore, Massive Damage Fort saves add some really neat tension to the game.  Siz of one, half a dozen of the other.The Force rules from d20 SW revised rock the casbah.  I really wish that this was how they'd handled psionics.The base class/advanced class/ prestige class hierarchy from d20 Modern seems really great too.  I especially like the flexibility of the base classes combined with the one-time "occupation" bonus.  Fantastic system  (and I'm not particularly fond of classes).From other game systems, such as Ars Magica or Silhoutte (Heavy Gear, Jovian Chronicles, etc...), I really like "zero average" attributes.  Meaning, attributes begin at 0 (the average human value) and go up and down to infinity from there.  This is partially implemented in d20 when one looks at the stat bonuses (10-11 = +/- 0) , but because stats don't go into the negatives, you don't really get a full range.  I would've been a tiny bit happier had they ditched the 3-18 stat range and simply had an infinitely linear range of stat bonuses.</blockquote>