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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 1993202" data-attributes="member: 14159"><p>The thread about Palladium books and many of the things in there made me think.</p><p></p><p>I've heard it from more than one source, on more than one occasion, that many gamers happen to like the Rifts setting, but they hate the Palladium system. I read posts of people on this board, and know people offline who play Rifts, but only a home-brewed d20 conversion of it, I know personally several gaming groups who have played Rifts with their own d20 conversions. In fact, I haven't seen a group play an actual Rifts campaign with the Palladium system since d20 came out. I've even seen two GMs of different d20 Rifts games argue about the best way to translate various archetypes into d20.</p><p></p><p>However, Palladium is infamously hostile to fans who try and share their own conversions (and if they could sue the people who play it at home without sharing their rules, they probably would, or so it seems), and they are outright rude to anyone who suggest to them they produce their own d20/OGL version of Rifts. Part of me wonders it the d20 Apocalypse book due out from WotC this June for d20 Modern is in at least in small part a quiet nod in the direction of d20 Rifts groups, by giving them a book of generic post-apocalyptic d20 stuff that can be easily fitted into any similar campaign.</p><p></p><p>The only time I ever hear of Rifts being played with the Palladium system in the present is by a few fans I run into on rare occasion at my FLGS, so there are some people who do play it, when I asked them about this issue (do they play it with d20 or Palladium) they became hostile and started ranting about how inferior d20 was to Palladium and how it was a rip-off of the Palladium system and Palladium should sue WotC into the dirt. My FLGS has a shelf devoted to Palladium, but nothing ever seems to move, only the hardcore players who buy the new releases and the rare parent or grandparent who comes in to buy a book for their son. However, everyone I've seen who has played d20 and Rifts combines the two.</p><p></p><p>Now, I know this is a d20 message board, so the answer is likely to be pretty lopsided, but I'm curious about people's thoughts on the matter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 1993202, member: 14159"] The thread about Palladium books and many of the things in there made me think. I've heard it from more than one source, on more than one occasion, that many gamers happen to like the Rifts setting, but they hate the Palladium system. I read posts of people on this board, and know people offline who play Rifts, but only a home-brewed d20 conversion of it, I know personally several gaming groups who have played Rifts with their own d20 conversions. In fact, I haven't seen a group play an actual Rifts campaign with the Palladium system since d20 came out. I've even seen two GMs of different d20 Rifts games argue about the best way to translate various archetypes into d20. However, Palladium is infamously hostile to fans who try and share their own conversions (and if they could sue the people who play it at home without sharing their rules, they probably would, or so it seems), and they are outright rude to anyone who suggest to them they produce their own d20/OGL version of Rifts. Part of me wonders it the d20 Apocalypse book due out from WotC this June for d20 Modern is in at least in small part a quiet nod in the direction of d20 Rifts groups, by giving them a book of generic post-apocalyptic d20 stuff that can be easily fitted into any similar campaign. The only time I ever hear of Rifts being played with the Palladium system in the present is by a few fans I run into on rare occasion at my FLGS, so there are some people who do play it, when I asked them about this issue (do they play it with d20 or Palladium) they became hostile and started ranting about how inferior d20 was to Palladium and how it was a rip-off of the Palladium system and Palladium should sue WotC into the dirt. My FLGS has a shelf devoted to Palladium, but nothing ever seems to move, only the hardcore players who buy the new releases and the rare parent or grandparent who comes in to buy a book for their son. However, everyone I've seen who has played d20 and Rifts combines the two. Now, I know this is a d20 message board, so the answer is likely to be pretty lopsided, but I'm curious about people's thoughts on the matter. [/QUOTE]
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