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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7273393" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Actual OGL d20 games face a community of d20 players who've likely played D&D, there's not a strong need for them to be accessible to genuinely-new players. 'Simple'/easy-to-understand or clearly-presented (or 'rules lite') for a d20 game means easy to pick up after having played 3.x D&D and maybe other d20 games. </p><p></p><p>D&D editions, too, have mostly been aimed at players of past editions - the current, 5e, moreso and more explicitly than ever. Basic sets are at least nominally aimed at new players, but usually as to bring them into the established community, so it's not just presenting and learning a game, it's presenting D&D's baggage. </p><p></p><p>In that sense, the earliest starter sets for D&D are the ones most aimed at totally-new players - but, they have the overwhelming disadvantage of being from the early days of the hobby. 5e's existing-fan emphasis was a pendulum-swing away from 4e trying to be more accessible to new gamers, which it did modestly, though, ironically, not so much with what passed for a basic set, which cloned the 'Red Box' art and was really more an homage for the benefit of long-time fans.</p><p></p><p>So, yeah, check out some of the non-d20 games that get mentions. Powered by the Apocalypse or Gumshoe based games, FUDGE based games, maybe, even something like Fiasco that's as much party game as RPG. Or, going the other way, ease in from the boardgame side of things with Castle Ravenloft or Wrath of Ashardalon, if there's still one kicking around at your FLGS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7273393, member: 996"] Actual OGL d20 games face a community of d20 players who've likely played D&D, there's not a strong need for them to be accessible to genuinely-new players. 'Simple'/easy-to-understand or clearly-presented (or 'rules lite') for a d20 game means easy to pick up after having played 3.x D&D and maybe other d20 games. D&D editions, too, have mostly been aimed at players of past editions - the current, 5e, moreso and more explicitly than ever. Basic sets are at least nominally aimed at new players, but usually as to bring them into the established community, so it's not just presenting and learning a game, it's presenting D&D's baggage. In that sense, the earliest starter sets for D&D are the ones most aimed at totally-new players - but, they have the overwhelming disadvantage of being from the early days of the hobby. 5e's existing-fan emphasis was a pendulum-swing away from 4e trying to be more accessible to new gamers, which it did modestly, though, ironically, not so much with what passed for a basic set, which cloned the 'Red Box' art and was really more an homage for the benefit of long-time fans. So, yeah, check out some of the non-d20 games that get mentions. Powered by the Apocalypse or Gumshoe based games, FUDGE based games, maybe, even something like Fiasco that's as much party game as RPG. Or, going the other way, ease in from the boardgame side of things with Castle Ravenloft or Wrath of Ashardalon, if there's still one kicking around at your FLGS. [/QUOTE]
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