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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5637067" data-attributes="member: 8835"><p>case in point (The intern's current problem):</p><p>why did all the pages start showing blank after lunch?</p><p>All pages use the same MasterPage which contains a menubar and a right rail of various other controls.</p><p>the default.aspx page is otherwise empty, and it too is blank.</p><p></p><p>Engineering problems (especially software ones) don't tend to map to something someone not versed in the art can understandd. I suppose with creativity, I can make some RPG scenario inspired by the problem, but the solution players come up with won't really apply (because ultimately, the solution is go to line X in file Y and change it to Z).</p><p></p><p>Whereas I see it as ridiculously easy to apply a crime scenario to D&D. The crooks are orcs, the PCs are vigilante's or cops, go.</p><p></p><p>It certainly could be useful for a player if they ever do encounter the situation in real life "Hey, I know how to handle Terrorists! This is just like last month when the Orcs of Red Valley swarmed in to hold the town hostage in exchange for government cheese!"</p><p></p><p>I'd certainly be curious if someone can apply Jack's idea to my problem (to translate it into an interesting challenge, puzzle or scenario in an RPG).</p><p></p><p>PS. The intern reports he left the "disable javascript setting on" from his earlier testing.</p><p></p><p>I do agree that the rule system doesn't really matter. In modeling a crime scenario, it's not really important that the orcs have pistols, swords or crossbows. It's mostly, what do the players do based on the orcs position, and how to the orcs react. As Jack described in real life training, the bad guy scripts get a bit dumb. Whereas, by playing them out as orcs, the GM is detached from the 'this is a training exercise" and can get into the mindset of "how do my orcs react to what the PCs did?"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Janx, post: 5637067, member: 8835"] case in point (The intern's current problem): why did all the pages start showing blank after lunch? All pages use the same MasterPage which contains a menubar and a right rail of various other controls. the default.aspx page is otherwise empty, and it too is blank. Engineering problems (especially software ones) don't tend to map to something someone not versed in the art can understandd. I suppose with creativity, I can make some RPG scenario inspired by the problem, but the solution players come up with won't really apply (because ultimately, the solution is go to line X in file Y and change it to Z). Whereas I see it as ridiculously easy to apply a crime scenario to D&D. The crooks are orcs, the PCs are vigilante's or cops, go. It certainly could be useful for a player if they ever do encounter the situation in real life "Hey, I know how to handle Terrorists! This is just like last month when the Orcs of Red Valley swarmed in to hold the town hostage in exchange for government cheese!" I'd certainly be curious if someone can apply Jack's idea to my problem (to translate it into an interesting challenge, puzzle or scenario in an RPG). PS. The intern reports he left the "disable javascript setting on" from his earlier testing. I do agree that the rule system doesn't really matter. In modeling a crime scenario, it's not really important that the orcs have pistols, swords or crossbows. It's mostly, what do the players do based on the orcs position, and how to the orcs react. As Jack described in real life training, the bad guy scripts get a bit dumb. Whereas, by playing them out as orcs, the GM is detached from the 'this is a training exercise" and can get into the mindset of "how do my orcs react to what the PCs did?" [/QUOTE]
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