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<blockquote data-quote="candidus_cogitens" data-source="post: 344729" data-attributes="member: 770">Note the key words: &quot;probably&quot; and &quot;I figure&quot;.&nbsp; I just wanted to clarify that there is nothing specifically in the rules that says to use the Intimidate skill in conjunction with that chart on p. 149 of the DMG.That said, I think it is not a bad idea.&nbsp; The problem, though, is that it becomes very, very similar to Diplomacy.&nbsp; Which again leads me to the conclusion that you should just eliminate the Intimidate skill and broaden the Diplomacy skill a little bit to include negotiating with adversaries.The thing is ... if you have Diplomacy and Intimidate as two separate skills, then you have to come up with some kind of line separating them.&nbsp; (Same goes for Bluff!)&nbsp; For example, if a player says to a foe, &quot;Get out or I'll kill you!&quot;, is that a bluff check, a diplomacy check, or an intimidate check?&nbsp; A case could be made for all three of them.&nbsp;&nbsp; If the DM allows a character to use any of the three, then it penalizes players who take ranks in both or all three skills because they become redundant.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="candidus_cogitens, post: 344729, member: 770"] Note the key words: "probably" and "I figure". I just wanted to clarify that there is nothing specifically in the rules that says to use the Intimidate skill in conjunction with that chart on p. 149 of the DMG. That said, I think it is not a bad idea. The problem, though, is that it becomes very, very similar to Diplomacy. Which again leads me to the conclusion that you should just eliminate the Intimidate skill and broaden the Diplomacy skill a little bit to include negotiating with adversaries. The thing is ... if you have Diplomacy and Intimidate as two separate skills, then you have to come up with some kind of line separating them. (Same goes for Bluff!) For example, if a player says to a foe, "Get out or I'll kill you!", is that a bluff check, a diplomacy check, or an intimidate check? A case could be made for all three of them. If the DM allows a character to use any of the three, then it penalizes players who take ranks in both or all three skills because they become redundant. [/QUOTE]

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