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<blockquote data-quote="Old Gumphrey" data-source="post: 3559863" data-attributes="member: 12872">QFTAs far as I know, fire elementals aren't made out of burning grease, either. The basis for this line of thought is that the elements are in opposition. That's why 50%+ of the people in this thread know that water damages fire elementals in some way, even if by RAW it doesn't. Because in other games and films and stories there is a huge precedent for things that are made out of fire to be &quot;put out&quot; when they get water on them. By your logic (and really, something like the burning oil in a bathtub example is fairly sound, but again fire elementals are not burning oil), cold shouldn't hurt fire elementals either, but it does.Remember when you said I &quot;just made that up&quot;? Guess what you're doing here? I don't think anyone has a real problem with fire elementals not being damaged by water directly. It's the people arguing that it gets free jump checks with no penalty for failure, or that it can simply skate across the surface of water unharmed. As far as I know this is the only elemental that doesn't get some kind of penalty by being out of its element; not only that, it isn't impeded or penalized by its opposing element? Get real (and don't tell me that it not being able to enter water is being impeded; if there was a rule that people couldn't enter lava you'd have folks arguing that they can skate across that too; water isn't solid, even if you're made out of fire).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Old Gumphrey, post: 3559863, member: 12872"] QFT As far as I know, fire elementals aren't made out of burning grease, either. The basis for this line of thought is that the elements are in opposition. That's why 50%+ of the people in this thread [i]know[/i] that water damages fire elementals in some way, even if by RAW it doesn't. Because in other games and films and stories there is a huge precedent for things that are made out of fire to be "put out" when they get water on them. By your logic (and really, something like the burning oil in a bathtub example is fairly sound, but again fire elementals are not burning oil), cold shouldn't hurt fire elementals either, but it does. Remember when you said I "just made that up"? Guess what you're doing here? I don't think anyone has a real problem with fire elementals not being damaged by water directly. It's the people arguing that it gets free jump checks with no penalty for failure, or that it can simply skate across the surface of water unharmed. As far as I know this is the only elemental that doesn't get some kind of penalty by being out of its element; not only that, it isn't impeded or penalized by its opposing element? Get real (and don't tell me that it not being able to enter water is being impeded; if there was a rule that people couldn't enter lava you'd have folks arguing that they can skate across that too; water isn't solid, even if you're made out of fire). [/QUOTE]

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