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<blockquote data-quote="DreadArchon" data-source="post: 3560169" data-attributes="member: 49449">By this logic, Wizards simply don't exist due to the lack of vancian casting in other settings.&nbsp; Not a compelling argument.&nbsp; Similarly, that Nightcrawler can *BAMF* *BAMF* *BAMF* *BAMF* with impunity does not remove the restrictions on Dimension Door.My logic was actually &quot;water doesn't hurt fire elementals because it doesn't say that it does.&quot;&nbsp; It does say that cold hurts them, so it should.&nbsp; (Plus, &quot;cold&quot; is, by real-world definition, a lack of thermal energy.&nbsp; Cold relates to fire much like Negative Energy relates to living creatures, though not exactly.)Based on the &quot;as far as I'm concerned&quot; line, I'd say I was making up everything after that.&nbsp; Before that, I was going off of:That's just wrong.&nbsp; An Earth Elemental can fly with no penalty (assuming that something casts Fly on it), an Air Elemental is actually better off buried than are many creatures (it'll still be crushed, but it can't suffocate), and a Water Elemental has no special interaction with fire of any sort (excluding fire-dominant planes, but they don't actually need to be in a region of fire for that to be an issue).&nbsp; A Fire Elemental is the only elemental impeded by its opposing element... though, for some weird reason, an Earth Elemental shares the Fire Elemental's restrictions against entering water.&nbsp; (Curious: Do you also let people extinguish Earth Elementals with water?&nbsp; If no, why?&nbsp; They react to water the same way that Fire Elementals do.)Um... <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/impede" target="_blank">&quot;Impede: to retard in movement or progress by means of obstacles or hindrances; obstruct; hinder.&quot;</a>&nbsp; If such a rule actually existed, they might have a point in claiming that.&nbsp; However, such a rule does not exist, so it makes a poor comparison.&nbsp; (A Water elemental can wade into lava just fine.&nbsp; Though, again, it wouldn't be advisable.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DreadArchon, post: 3560169, member: 49449"] By this logic, Wizards simply don't exist due to the lack of vancian casting in other settings. Not a compelling argument. Similarly, that Nightcrawler can *BAMF* *BAMF* *BAMF* *BAMF* with impunity does not remove the restrictions on Dimension Door. My logic was actually "water doesn't hurt fire elementals because it doesn't say that it does." It [i]does[/i] say that cold hurts them, so it should. (Plus, "cold" is, by real-world definition, a lack of thermal energy. Cold relates to fire much like Negative Energy relates to living creatures, though not exactly.) Based on the "as far as I'm concerned" line, I'd say I was making up everything after that. Before that, I was going off of: That's just wrong. An Earth Elemental can fly with no penalty (assuming that something casts Fly on it), an Air Elemental is actually better off buried than are many creatures (it'll still be crushed, but it can't suffocate), and a Water Elemental has no special interaction with fire of any sort (excluding fire-dominant planes, but they don't actually need to be in a region of fire for that to be an issue). A Fire Elemental is the [i]only[/i] elemental impeded by its opposing element... though, for some weird reason, an Earth Elemental shares the Fire Elemental's restrictions against entering water. (Curious: Do you also let people extinguish Earth Elementals with water? If no, why? They react to water the same way that Fire Elementals do.) Um... [url=http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/impede]"Impede: to retard in movement or progress by means of obstacles or hindrances; obstruct; hinder."[/url] If such a rule actually existed, they might have a point in claiming that. However, such a rule does not exist, so it makes a poor comparison. (A Water elemental can wade into lava just fine. Though, again, it wouldn't be advisable.) [/QUOTE]

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