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What Happened to Devils? And my Bloodwar?
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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 5809443" data-attributes="member: 1165"><p>Maybe people don't care much. I sure don't. I think WotC just doesn't talk about the Blood War anymore, and a DM can introduce it, or not, as they choose.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I disagree on that. Just look at the lawful evil description on TVTropes. If WotC had ever bothered to write such a clear description of LE in its books, maybe it would still exist as an alignment today. (I disagree with one of the three parts of LE on TVTropes, but at least it's possible to state my disagreement based on their interpretation.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You don't need an alignment for that. You're describing personality.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If WotC had clearly explained the difference between law and chaos we wouldn't be in this position. They never did, and probably can't, so they waved the white flag and folded some nearly-indistinguishable alignments together.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct. Paladin flavor is based on their order and deity, not on an ultra-restrictive view of lawful good.</p><p></p><p>If you have paladins that can't lie, perhaps that's the Order of the Justicar, tasked with hunting down and trying criminals. A player who doesn't want an unplayable obstructive code of conduct can pick a different order, probably serving a different deity. You don't need all paladins being the same.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 5809443, member: 1165"] Maybe people don't care much. I sure don't. I think WotC just doesn't talk about the Blood War anymore, and a DM can introduce it, or not, as they choose. I disagree on that. Just look at the lawful evil description on TVTropes. If WotC had ever bothered to write such a clear description of LE in its books, maybe it would still exist as an alignment today. (I disagree with one of the three parts of LE on TVTropes, but at least it's possible to state my disagreement based on their interpretation.) You don't need an alignment for that. You're describing personality. If WotC had clearly explained the difference between law and chaos we wouldn't be in this position. They never did, and probably can't, so they waved the white flag and folded some nearly-indistinguishable alignments together. Correct. Correct. Paladin flavor is based on their order and deity, not on an ultra-restrictive view of lawful good. If you have paladins that can't lie, perhaps that's the Order of the Justicar, tasked with hunting down and trying criminals. A player who doesn't want an unplayable obstructive code of conduct can pick a different order, probably serving a different deity. You don't need all paladins being the same. [/QUOTE]
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