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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6494682" data-attributes="member: 2011">It's a bit insulting when people state that other people should get away from "that type of thinking".It has to do with normal thinking. Where do these items come from? Who created them? Why are they just being found in musty old dungeons and typically not found in the hands of NPCs in town? If NPCs could create them, why not PCs?And finally, is it just possible that many DMs and players LIKE the 3E concept of the players crafting items? It's part of D&D history and better yet, it's FUN for the players. The game is played by players, many of whom enjoy this type of thing. Saying that "this type of thinking" is BadWrongFun isn't very helpful.A player of mine 30 years ago still reminiscences to this day (he talked about it over the holidays) about his PC who created his own unique magic items (he created two items) and his own magically protected stronghold (using 1E rules). 30 years later, he is still talking about this because it was so much fun.</blockquote>