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<blockquote data-quote="ProgBard" data-source="post: 6995732" data-attributes="member: 6803722"><p>What I find most baffling is that so much of the demand for "official" product is coming from folks for whom it seems WotC hasn't done anything right since the launch of the edition. It's the RPG hobby's "the food here is terrible, and the portions are too small."*</p><p></p><p>For this, I can only consider that, for at least some (probably small) sector of the D&D community, asking (demanding) for official content of the "right" kind seems to be a particularly quirky version of Fannish Entitlement: "I want those so-and-sos at Wotsy to admit they were WRONG WRONG WRONGITY WRONG and fix it by doing X." Which, jeeze, whatever gets you up in the morning, I guess, but <em>really</em>, now.</p><p></p><p>The irony of it all is that, from what I can see, the DIY aesthetic is practically <em>baked in</em> to 5e. It's an edition, more than any before it, which has as part of its subtext-and-sometimes-text that if you don't like what the rulebooks give you, you should change it to something you DO like. I feel like 5e <em>wants </em>you to adjust, sample, remix, and especially add your own stuff to it - which isn't to say it doesn't run perfectly fine out of the box, if that's not your jam, but I suspect the answer to most of the "But where are the rules for X?" questions is intended to be, "Well, that's where <em>you </em>come in." As if the creation of DMs Guild weren't evidence enough for that, Dragon+ just devoted a whole issue to celebrating D&DIY in a variety of media. So part of what I love about 5e - which is, for me, the version of D&D that I wished AD&D was when I was first into it thirty-mumble years ago - is that it knows its audience of tinkerers and kitbashers and sees that as part of the heart and strength of the game, and all but comes out and tells you, "Whatever you choose to do with the parts in this box, you're Doin It Rite."</p><p></p><p>*Very nearly typo'd this as "potions," and very nearly considered not fixing it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ProgBard, post: 6995732, member: 6803722"] What I find most baffling is that so much of the demand for "official" product is coming from folks for whom it seems WotC hasn't done anything right since the launch of the edition. It's the RPG hobby's "the food here is terrible, and the portions are too small."* For this, I can only consider that, for at least some (probably small) sector of the D&D community, asking (demanding) for official content of the "right" kind seems to be a particularly quirky version of Fannish Entitlement: "I want those so-and-sos at Wotsy to admit they were WRONG WRONG WRONGITY WRONG and fix it by doing X." Which, jeeze, whatever gets you up in the morning, I guess, but [I]really[/I], now. The irony of it all is that, from what I can see, the DIY aesthetic is practically [I]baked in[/I] to 5e. It's an edition, more than any before it, which has as part of its subtext-and-sometimes-text that if you don't like what the rulebooks give you, you should change it to something you DO like. I feel like 5e [I]wants [/I]you to adjust, sample, remix, and especially add your own stuff to it - which isn't to say it doesn't run perfectly fine out of the box, if that's not your jam, but I suspect the answer to most of the "But where are the rules for X?" questions is intended to be, "Well, that's where [I]you [/I]come in." As if the creation of DMs Guild weren't evidence enough for that, Dragon+ just devoted a whole issue to celebrating D&DIY in a variety of media. So part of what I love about 5e - which is, for me, the version of D&D that I wished AD&D was when I was first into it thirty-mumble years ago - is that it knows its audience of tinkerers and kitbashers and sees that as part of the heart and strength of the game, and all but comes out and tells you, "Whatever you choose to do with the parts in this box, you're Doin It Rite." *Very nearly typo'd this as "potions," and very nearly considered not fixing it. [/QUOTE]
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