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<blockquote data-quote="pickin_grinnin" data-source="post: 6286360" data-attributes="member: 6697674">To be honest, I'm still not clear on why they thought it would be a good idea to end the OWOD and go to the NWOD.&nbsp; They didn't just make a few rule changes - they mucked with the entire look and feel of the games, got rid of the dark adult edge, took an excellent magic system and made it far less interesting and innovative, and even gave the art a more cartoony feel.&nbsp; They alienated a lot of their existing players, and were never able to build up the same kind of following with the new system (unsurprisingly).&nbsp; I can understand the move to PDF/POD, doing so after alienating so many existing players really didn't help.&nbsp; The game more or less fell off the map.&nbsp; I rarely encounter anyone in gaming groups or at conventions who talks about the World of Darkness anymore, and those I do encounter are only interested in OWOD.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would love to see some new OWOD products come out from Onyx Path, but so far I haven't really seen anything interesting.&nbsp; I would love to be able to buy some new material (in printed form) for OWOD, so hopefully they'll come out with something soon, but I don't see much of interest on their release schedule.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pickin_grinnin, post: 6286360, member: 6697674"] To be honest, I'm still not clear on why they thought it would be a good idea to end the OWOD and go to the NWOD. They didn't just make a few rule changes - they mucked with the entire look and feel of the games, got rid of the dark adult edge, took an excellent magic system and made it far less interesting and innovative, and even gave the art a more cartoony feel. They alienated a lot of their existing players, and were never able to build up the same kind of following with the new system (unsurprisingly). I can understand the move to PDF/POD, doing so after alienating so many existing players really didn't help. The game more or less fell off the map. I rarely encounter anyone in gaming groups or at conventions who talks about the World of Darkness anymore, and those I do encounter are only interested in OWOD. I would love to see some new OWOD products come out from Onyx Path, but so far I haven't really seen anything interesting. I would love to be able to buy some new material (in printed form) for OWOD, so hopefully they'll come out with something soon, but I don't see much of interest on their release schedule. [/QUOTE]

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