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What Happens if a Cleric/Warlock/etc PC Gravely Offends Their Supernatural Patron?
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<blockquote data-quote="Raduin711" data-source="post: 8541420" data-attributes="member: 15303"><p>With clerics, it depends on the deity, and the cleric.</p><p></p><p>Some deities are going to care about things like "was his heart in the right place?" and others are not going to have time for that nonsense. Kinder gods are more forgiving; wrathful, jealous gods are not.</p><p></p><p>And then it depends on where the cleric stands. A cleric may not understand how or if they have broken a deity's trust, which may in turn affect how a deity reacts to it. A cleric can switch to another deity or philosophy if necessary.</p><p></p><p>Basically, it's a partnership between the cleric and the deity, contingent on the cleric's faith. If there are problems, they need to work them out, or break the partnership. Admittedly, it's an odd partnership in that one party is perpetually mute and practically all knowing and generally only acts to voice displeasure...</p><p></p><p>Warlocks I see as more transactional. The Warlock made some sort of pact with their patron, and so long as the Warlock abides by the rules of the pact, there is nothing the patron can do. Much like the mythical hero who outsmarts the devil or a faerie, the patron can stomp and fuss all they like.</p><p></p><p>If the Warlock breaks the rules of the pact- that's it. Powers rescinded, Unless the patron wants to amend the pact, or the warlock signs on with another patron, or the Patron lets them sign on again.</p><p></p><p>But I recognize neither of these classes have these stipulations RAW. But I think it makes sense for them to have them and I think most players do too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raduin711, post: 8541420, member: 15303"] With clerics, it depends on the deity, and the cleric. Some deities are going to care about things like "was his heart in the right place?" and others are not going to have time for that nonsense. Kinder gods are more forgiving; wrathful, jealous gods are not. And then it depends on where the cleric stands. A cleric may not understand how or if they have broken a deity's trust, which may in turn affect how a deity reacts to it. A cleric can switch to another deity or philosophy if necessary. Basically, it's a partnership between the cleric and the deity, contingent on the cleric's faith. If there are problems, they need to work them out, or break the partnership. Admittedly, it's an odd partnership in that one party is perpetually mute and practically all knowing and generally only acts to voice displeasure... Warlocks I see as more transactional. The Warlock made some sort of pact with their patron, and so long as the Warlock abides by the rules of the pact, there is nothing the patron can do. Much like the mythical hero who outsmarts the devil or a faerie, the patron can stomp and fuss all they like. If the Warlock breaks the rules of the pact- that's it. Powers rescinded, Unless the patron wants to amend the pact, or the warlock signs on with another patron, or the Patron lets them sign on again. But I recognize neither of these classes have these stipulations RAW. But I think it makes sense for them to have them and I think most players do too. [/QUOTE]
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