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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 8541703" data-attributes="member: 19857">So what you're saying is that it isn't unbalanced at all if the Patron is ignored as an element, it's a narrative element that can be used to further the Warlock character's story?To me that says that the warlock isn't overpowered if they choose to ignore their Patron and the DM decides to not follow up on it, it's just that a possible story hook for the Warlock character is being ignored (possibly one that the player wants to have explored since they're going out of their way to offend their Patron).  That's a very different thing in my mind than a claim that the Warlock class is out of balance if the DM isn't using their Patron to keep them in check.EDIT: Also there's no reason to believe that a Patronless Warlock has stolen their power.  For example, you could use those mechanics to model a character who has had a divine entity imbue the character with power as the celestial dies. Now the "warlock" has the divine power of that entity within them and uses the mechanics of the Celestial patron, but the patron never shows up to demand favors from the warlock because they're dead.  The mechanics of that should work and be balanced, and while the player is losing out on one story hook with the loss of the Patron they're gaining some new ones.</blockquote>