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<blockquote data-quote="StupidSmurf" data-source="post: 3714301" data-attributes="member: 35893"><p>Haven't been around in a while....took an announcement of this magnitude (??) to rouse me out of my Ent-like torpor and actually post something.</p><p></p><p>As far as 4E goes....good luck, WotC. You're gonna need it.</p><p></p><p>What happens if we don't like it? Well, in our little corner of the world, for what it's worth, the point is moot.</p><p></p><p>I already know that everyone in my group's not going to pick it up. They've sunk too many resources already into 3.5, and are happy with it. I've personally sunk WAYYY too many resources into 3.5. I definitely am not picking this new one up. It's far too soon. Frankly, as far as I'm concerned, WotC can go straight to that Outer Plane where Lawful Evils go when they die. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p></p><p>We're sticking with 3.5. We like it.</p><p></p><p>First Dragon and Dungeon go the way of the dinosaur, now this. Would like to say I'm surprised, but sadly I'm not.</p><p></p><p>Some will buy 4E and lo, they will love it. And really, that's great for them. Some will buy it and say "We wuz robbed!".</p><p></p><p>Our group simply has decided not to risk it....the benefits do NOT outweigh the risks and/or inconvenience of yet another D&D system.</p><p></p><p>And if you ask me, we're now seeing the dilution of D&D as an end-all be all. It's the breakdown of Orthodoxy. No longer will there be The One True D&D Game to Rule Them All. There's too many different permutations of D&D, each with enough adherents to keep them going. The more versions they release, the more some people will dig in their heels and stick with their old systems.</p><p></p><p>I saw people do it when AD&D 2nd Ed came out....and a percentage stuck with AD&D.</p><p>I saw people do it when D&D 3.0 came out, and a percentage stuck with 2nd Ed.</p><p>D&D 3.5, well, it corrected a lot of stuff from 3.0 that just shouldn't have been there in the first place.</p><p>Now comes 4E? Fine. Law of diminishing returns, baby.</p><p></p><p>At the risk of turning this into an Old School Gamer Rant (tm), there was a time when D&D was the Almighty, and Dragon was its prophet. Now the prophet's gone, and there's a whole bunch of Almightys running around....I think I kinda liked it better the old way, but hey, we can work with this and still have an enjoyable gaming experience. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p>We choose 3.5. Fourth ED can take a flying leap. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StupidSmurf, post: 3714301, member: 35893"] Haven't been around in a while....took an announcement of this magnitude (??) to rouse me out of my Ent-like torpor and actually post something. As far as 4E goes....good luck, WotC. You're gonna need it. What happens if we don't like it? Well, in our little corner of the world, for what it's worth, the point is moot. I already know that everyone in my group's not going to pick it up. They've sunk too many resources already into 3.5, and are happy with it. I've personally sunk WAYYY too many resources into 3.5. I definitely am not picking this new one up. It's far too soon. Frankly, as far as I'm concerned, WotC can go straight to that Outer Plane where Lawful Evils go when they die. :p We're sticking with 3.5. We like it. First Dragon and Dungeon go the way of the dinosaur, now this. Would like to say I'm surprised, but sadly I'm not. Some will buy 4E and lo, they will love it. And really, that's great for them. Some will buy it and say "We wuz robbed!". Our group simply has decided not to risk it....the benefits do NOT outweigh the risks and/or inconvenience of yet another D&D system. And if you ask me, we're now seeing the dilution of D&D as an end-all be all. It's the breakdown of Orthodoxy. No longer will there be The One True D&D Game to Rule Them All. There's too many different permutations of D&D, each with enough adherents to keep them going. The more versions they release, the more some people will dig in their heels and stick with their old systems. I saw people do it when AD&D 2nd Ed came out....and a percentage stuck with AD&D. I saw people do it when D&D 3.0 came out, and a percentage stuck with 2nd Ed. D&D 3.5, well, it corrected a lot of stuff from 3.0 that just shouldn't have been there in the first place. Now comes 4E? Fine. Law of diminishing returns, baby. At the risk of turning this into an Old School Gamer Rant (tm), there was a time when D&D was the Almighty, and Dragon was its prophet. Now the prophet's gone, and there's a whole bunch of Almightys running around....I think I kinda liked it better the old way, but hey, we can work with this and still have an enjoyable gaming experience. :D We choose 3.5. Fourth ED can take a flying leap. :) [/QUOTE]
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