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<blockquote data-quote="Falling Icicle" data-source="post: 4310335" data-attributes="member: 17077">And which daily/utility spells do they &quot;know&quot;? The one's they currently had prepared? What about the one's they've already cast that day? And what about the other spells in the book? How does the Wizard go about replacing them?I like your idea, but I guess that means that there really aren't any actual rules for this. That's a pretty big oversight on WotC's part. The more I learn about how Spellbooks work in 4e, the less I like it. It seems like a very contrived and thrown together system without much thought about how it interacts with the game world. For example, why are several spells named after famous Wizards, like Bigby or Mordenkainen, when spells can't even be traded, sold or copied anymore? Why would I credit Bigby for a spell that I thought up myself? Why would any Wizard? And what reason, other than sharing rituals, do Wizards have to be in guilds, academies, etc? Why quest to find some legendary Wizard's spellbook when I can't even use the spells recorded in it? And if I did just think up/research all my spells on my own, as the &quot;only gain spels when you level up&quot; system implies, why do I even need to keep them in a book? None of it makes any sense to me.Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that they kept the spellbook in some fashion, as the strategy of preparation was always one of the funnest things about playing a Wizard for me. But I wish they had done it a bit differently. For example, instead of getting two spells when you level up, you should get one, and then be able to find/research additional ones with roleplaying, like in older editions. But that's just my 2c.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Falling Icicle, post: 4310335, member: 17077"] And which daily/utility spells do they "know"? The one's they currently had prepared? What about the one's they've already cast that day? And what about the other spells in the book? How does the Wizard go about replacing them? I like your idea, but I guess that means that there really aren't any actual rules for this. That's a pretty big oversight on WotC's part. The more I learn about how Spellbooks work in 4e, the less I like it. It seems like a very contrived and thrown together system without much thought about how it interacts with the game world. For example, why are several spells named after famous Wizards, like Bigby or Mordenkainen, when spells can't even be traded, sold or copied anymore? Why would I credit Bigby for a spell that I thought up myself? Why would any Wizard? And what reason, other than sharing rituals, do Wizards have to be in guilds, academies, etc? Why quest to find some legendary Wizard's spellbook when I can't even use the spells recorded in it? And if I did just think up/research all my spells on my own, as the "only gain spels when you level up" system implies, why do I even need to keep them in a book? None of it makes any sense to me. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that they kept the spellbook in some fashion, as the strategy of preparation was always one of the funnest things about playing a Wizard for me. But I wish they had done it a bit differently. For example, instead of getting two spells when you level up, you should get one, and then be able to find/research additional ones with roleplaying, like in older editions. But that's just my 2c. [/QUOTE]

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