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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Orcus" data-source="post: 1130831" data-attributes="member: 1254">I'm not pretending to be able to settle this debate. In my opinion, this is still undecided and is a grey area, even to us publishers.I think the line is between what is derivative and what is an enhancement over prior art. That is a hard line to draw. I will say that I can see a reasonable argument that spell templates can be closed. I dont think you can say there is NO way they can be closed. There is a reasonable interpretation that allows their closure, IMHO. Now, will that be the controlling view? I dont know. Because there is, IMHO, a reasonable argument on the other side that says (particularly with templates such as the fire one mentioned above) it is so intertwined with the source material from the SRD as to be derivative rather than an enhancement over prior art.I think this is a tough question with very reasonable arguments on both sides.Those of you who know me know that I dont usually sit on the fence. I am pretty opinionated and definately not afraid to express them. I hope the fact that I am on the fence on this tells you something.Like I said, I cant convince either side they are wrong on this one.Clark</blockquote>