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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5082628" data-attributes="member: 82106">Well, the choice of DMPC can make a big difference as well. For example you could build a paladin. He'll be able to act as a defender as well as provide some healing. Give him a feat that helps his healing power a bit. If you have DDI you could make a hybrid paladin|cleric. A straight cleric will of course manage the healing part real well but won't have the Divine Challenge to use to force monsters to attack him instead of the rangers.The other 2 players COULD do a good bit to tweak their characters to bring things a bit more towards a balanced setup too. I don't know their builds but the straight ranger could MC to pick up a leader power from warlord for example. Building a fairly high STR/CON melee ranger that takes heavier armor could be good too. That way he's more durable and can absorb some blows that the pally can't pull off him. Item selection is also an area where you can do a fair amount. Provide some items that supply needed healing effects and leader-like bonuses or saving throws, etc. As far as what kind of encounters to use, again its kind of hard to say. It depends a lot on how tactical the players are and their builds. Just start out easy and work your way into it. First try throwing an encounter at them that works to their strengths, like 2-3 archers vs a bow armed ranger and a rogue with a decent crossbow and see what happens. Kobolds are pretty good to experiment with.In general you can really leverage minions with this group. They don't have spell casters to blanket area damage so the minions will be able to get to melee. Using them allows you to still have an encounter with say 5 interesting opponents were 2-3 can be minions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5082628, member: 82106"] Well, the choice of DMPC can make a big difference as well. For example you could build a paladin. He'll be able to act as a defender as well as provide some healing. Give him a feat that helps his healing power a bit. If you have DDI you could make a hybrid paladin|cleric. A straight cleric will of course manage the healing part real well but won't have the Divine Challenge to use to force monsters to attack him instead of the rangers. The other 2 players COULD do a good bit to tweak their characters to bring things a bit more towards a balanced setup too. I don't know their builds but the straight ranger could MC to pick up a leader power from warlord for example. Building a fairly high STR/CON melee ranger that takes heavier armor could be good too. That way he's more durable and can absorb some blows that the pally can't pull off him. Item selection is also an area where you can do a fair amount. Provide some items that supply needed healing effects and leader-like bonuses or saving throws, etc. As far as what kind of encounters to use, again its kind of hard to say. It depends a lot on how tactical the players are and their builds. Just start out easy and work your way into it. First try throwing an encounter at them that works to their strengths, like 2-3 archers vs a bow armed ranger and a rogue with a decent crossbow and see what happens. Kobolds are pretty good to experiment with. In general you can really leverage minions with this group. They don't have spell casters to blanket area damage so the minions will be able to get to melee. Using them allows you to still have an encounter with say 5 interesting opponents were 2-3 can be minions. [/QUOTE]

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