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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 2283566" data-attributes="member: 31734">Yes, I know, but I was pointing out that the domain power does not grant all the abilities of FoM and arguing that allowing that was IMO better than actually have FoM 1/day (which is what I that the person I was reponding to was thinking).&nbsp; I was pointing out what you say as part of the domain power.&nbsp; I'm not sure I'm making sense, but hopefully I am. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Yes, most definitely IMO.&nbsp; A level/per day use of FoM usable automatically as a free action is too much.&nbsp; Allowing it without the grappling component is not.&nbsp; You will be grappled far more frequently than you will be subjected to the other effects.With all due respect, you still aren't making any sense.&nbsp; First you say, &quot;If the spell impedes movement (regardless of how), the ability ignores it.&quot;&nbsp; A wall definitely impedes movement in the direction of the wall.&nbsp; I can't see how you don't agree with that statement.&nbsp; By your own statement, &quot;the ability ignores [the wall].&quot;&nbsp; If I'm in the middle of an entangle and I have fly and make my save, I can fly upwards without impedence.&nbsp; Therefore, by your rule that the effect does not impede movement in at least one direction, the ability does not function.&nbsp; So, therefore, I can conclude (based on your logic) that FoM does not work vs. entangle when moving on the ground as long as the person can fly.&nbsp; I ask you to think about this one a little more and reconsider your position.&nbsp; Specifically, &quot;It is not when he cannot go in a given direction.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 2283566, member: 31734"] Yes, I know, but I was pointing out that the domain power does not grant all the abilities of FoM and arguing that allowing that was IMO better than actually have FoM 1/day (which is what I that the person I was reponding to was thinking). I was pointing out what you say as part of the domain power. I'm not sure I'm making sense, but hopefully I am. :) Yes, most definitely IMO. A level/per day use of FoM usable automatically as a free action is too much. Allowing it without the grappling component is not. You will be grappled far more frequently than you will be subjected to the other effects. With all due respect, you still aren't making any sense. First you say, "If the spell impedes movement (regardless of how), the ability ignores it." A wall definitely impedes movement in the direction of the wall. I can't see how you don't agree with that statement. By your own statement, "the ability ignores [the wall]." If I'm in the middle of an entangle and I have fly and make my save, I can fly upwards without impedence. Therefore, by your rule that the effect does not impede movement in at least one direction, the ability does not function. So, therefore, I can conclude (based on your logic) that FoM does not work vs. entangle when moving on the ground as long as the person can fly. I ask you to think about this one a little more and reconsider your position. Specifically, "It is not when he cannot go in a given direction." [/QUOTE]

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