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What happens when... you modify Evards Black Tentaclers using Feats?
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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6996138" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>These questions haven't come up in play, but they will at some point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The spell says to treat it as a Large creature, which matches the Area and description: The 10 ft base of a Large creature, with 10 foot Reach (specified tentacle length) would cover an area with a 20 ft. radius, which is what the spell say it covers.</p><p></p><p>That would effectively give it a 15 ft base and 15 foot tentacles, for a 30 foot radius area.</p><p></p><p>So, do you now treat it as a Huge creature? Not suggesting that this would increase the Strength, since the spell isn't <em>Enlarge Monster</em>, but the size increase would add 4 to its Grapple modifier.</p><p></p><p>Additionally, when you increase the size, damage normally increases as well. Melee damage of D6 would become D8. Since Grapple damage is based on unarmed Melee damage plus Strength, that would give the spell Caster Level +12 for a Grapple check, and increase damage to D8 + 4 per round.</p><p></p><p>First, does my read/interpretation make sense, or am I reading too much into the "treat the tentacles as a Large creature with a Strength of 19" part?</p><p></p><p>How much of that would you allow?</p><p></p><p>Next question: The spell is a Conjuration/Creation spell. The Augment Summoning feat increases the STR and CON of any summoned monsters by 4. Would that add to the Strength of the Tentacles?</p><p></p><p>This one is harder to justify since it isn't technically a summoned monster, it's a Conjuration spell that is treated as a monster.</p><p></p><p>Final question: When Grappling, a creature that doesn't give the Grapple its full attention suffers a Grapple penalty. The spell mentions the grapples check <strong>against a particular target</strong>. Does that mean that the Grapple check gets lowered if there are multiple targets?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6996138, member: 6669384"] These questions haven't come up in play, but they will at some point. The spell says to treat it as a Large creature, which matches the Area and description: The 10 ft base of a Large creature, with 10 foot Reach (specified tentacle length) would cover an area with a 20 ft. radius, which is what the spell say it covers. That would effectively give it a 15 ft base and 15 foot tentacles, for a 30 foot radius area. So, do you now treat it as a Huge creature? Not suggesting that this would increase the Strength, since the spell isn't [I]Enlarge Monster[/I], but the size increase would add 4 to its Grapple modifier. Additionally, when you increase the size, damage normally increases as well. Melee damage of D6 would become D8. Since Grapple damage is based on unarmed Melee damage plus Strength, that would give the spell Caster Level +12 for a Grapple check, and increase damage to D8 + 4 per round. First, does my read/interpretation make sense, or am I reading too much into the "treat the tentacles as a Large creature with a Strength of 19" part? How much of that would you allow? Next question: The spell is a Conjuration/Creation spell. The Augment Summoning feat increases the STR and CON of any summoned monsters by 4. Would that add to the Strength of the Tentacles? This one is harder to justify since it isn't technically a summoned monster, it's a Conjuration spell that is treated as a monster. Final question: When Grappling, a creature that doesn't give the Grapple its full attention suffers a Grapple penalty. The spell mentions the grapples check [B]against a particular target[/B]. Does that mean that the Grapple check gets lowered if there are multiple targets? [/QUOTE]
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