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<blockquote data-quote="Herremann the Wise" data-source="post: 4964427" data-attributes="member: 11300">I don't know, if you offered a demon the opportunity to go-a-hunting solo on the prime material, how many demons are going to refuse rather than gorging themselves? Unless their appetite is less than their fear, they ain't gonna refuse an invitation.That just seems like too much restraint for your average demon. Once onto a good thing, would they not want more of it?The first part I agree with. [I have to say that I really hate disagreeing with Shemeska when it comes to the planes. It feels unnatural and like little demons are gonna come a-visiting in retribution. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid&nbsp; &nbsp; :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" />] I just can't buy that restraint or lack of appetite is going to stop a demon from the ultimate lolly shop that is the prime material plane.Actually, I think the major reason why demons don't go flooding the prime material is because they can't. The only demon (in the MM) that can plane shift is the Bebilith and that ability is restricted to themselves alone. Couple this with the fact that a Bebilith gets happy by eating a demon-only diet, and thus a demon's only way of cracking it onto the prime is through either a portal/gate or by being invited. Crack teams of Angels/Heroes go looking for such portals or demon-worshippers/meddlers (or as Danny Alcatraz nicely said, the one way door idea for the majority of portals is a good one).I think combine this with Andor's brilliant zero sum idea and you have a pretty strong reason why demons aren't flooding the prime. Fascinating conversation everyone by the way. Top Notch!Best RegardsHerremann the Wise</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Herremann the Wise, post: 4964427, member: 11300"] I don't know, if you offered a demon the opportunity to go-a-hunting solo on the prime material, how many demons are going to refuse rather than gorging themselves? Unless their appetite is less than their fear, they ain't gonna refuse an invitation. That just seems like too much restraint for your average demon. Once onto a good thing, would they not want more of it? The first part I agree with. [I have to say that I really hate disagreeing with Shemeska when it comes to the planes. It feels unnatural and like little demons are gonna come a-visiting in retribution. :uhoh:] I just can't buy that restraint or lack of appetite is going to stop a demon from the ultimate lolly shop that is the prime material plane. Actually, I think the major reason why demons don't go flooding the prime material is because they can't. The only demon (in the MM) that can plane shift is the Bebilith and that ability is restricted to themselves alone. Couple this with the fact that a Bebilith gets happy by eating a demon-only diet, and thus a demon's only way of cracking it onto the prime is through either a portal/gate or by being invited. Crack teams of Angels/Heroes go looking for such portals or demon-worshippers/meddlers (or as Danny Alcatraz nicely said, the one way door idea for the majority of portals is a good one). I think combine this with Andor's brilliant zero sum idea and you have a pretty strong reason why demons aren't flooding the prime. Fascinating conversation everyone by the way. Top Notch! Best Regards Herremann the Wise [/QUOTE]

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