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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 4964543" data-attributes="member: 4937">Answers for me:1) No demons or devils, at least not as organized independent races.&nbsp; There are fiendish servitors of the evil dieties, certainly, and some of them may even have familiar diabolical or demonic forms, but the incarnated ideas aren't separatable into two parallel groups.&nbsp; 2) The good dieties have their own armies of servitors.3) They've tried it before.&nbsp; Neither side won, lots of gods died, and the world got seriously wrecked.&nbsp; Most sides agreed that if they kept it up, there wouldn't be a world to fight over, and even some of the bad guys sided with the good guys in thinking that was a bad thing.&nbsp; After that, they agreed to a truce whereby they would be represented in the world by mortals and fight by proxy.&nbsp; Demons don't go rampaging, because angels would go rampaging in retribution and all heaven and hell would like break lose.&nbsp; So, both sides tend to play it subtle, knowing that any direct intervention invites an equal retaliation by the other side.4) The outer planes are infinite only in the sense that ones imagination is infinite.&nbsp; They are unbounded and infinitely extensible, but their capacity to contain an infinite space doesn't mean that there is actually an infinite amount of things within them.&nbsp; The forces of heaven and hell are therefore finite.&nbsp; It's not like there is an infinite abyss containing an infinite number of demons.&nbsp; And mortals are mighty enough that if you spent your servitors too freely trying to dominate them by force, you might find yourself crippled in your dealings in the outer planes.5) If they would be fully honest, it is because there are things about the world that the gods of both sides don't understand fully and it scares them.&nbsp; For example, a DC 30 religious check would reveal to a player that the Gods never expected mortals to be able to obtain such heights of independent power.&nbsp; It wasn't part of the design for mortals to become 20th level superbeings, and the Gods have no idea how it happened or happens.&nbsp; It would be like if you invented chess in order to resolve your disputes, and then found the peices could do things you never imagined or intended them to do.&nbsp; Ever since the Iconoclasm, the Gods and their servitors have been extra circumspect and careful in dealing with the world.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 4964543, member: 4937"] Answers for me: 1) No demons or devils, at least not as organized independent races. There are fiendish servitors of the evil dieties, certainly, and some of them may even have familiar diabolical or demonic forms, but the incarnated ideas aren't separatable into two parallel groups. 2) The good dieties have their own armies of servitors. 3) They've tried it before. Neither side won, lots of gods died, and the world got seriously wrecked. Most sides agreed that if they kept it up, there wouldn't be a world to fight over, and even some of the bad guys sided with the good guys in thinking that was a bad thing. After that, they agreed to a truce whereby they would be represented in the world by mortals and fight by proxy. Demons don't go rampaging, because angels would go rampaging in retribution and all heaven and hell would like break lose. So, both sides tend to play it subtle, knowing that any direct intervention invites an equal retaliation by the other side. 4) The outer planes are infinite only in the sense that ones imagination is infinite. They are unbounded and infinitely extensible, but their capacity to contain an infinite space doesn't mean that there is actually an infinite amount of things within them. The forces of heaven and hell are therefore finite. It's not like there is an infinite abyss containing an infinite number of demons. And mortals are mighty enough that if you spent your servitors too freely trying to dominate them by force, you might find yourself crippled in your dealings in the outer planes. 5) If they would be fully honest, it is because there are things about the world that the gods of both sides don't understand fully and it scares them. For example, a DC 30 religious check would reveal to a player that the Gods never expected mortals to be able to obtain such heights of independent power. It wasn't part of the design for mortals to become 20th level superbeings, and the Gods have no idea how it happened or happens. It would be like if you invented chess in order to resolve your disputes, and then found the peices could do things you never imagined or intended them to do. Ever since the Iconoclasm, the Gods and their servitors have been extra circumspect and careful in dealing with the world. [/QUOTE]

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