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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9496973" data-attributes="member: 93670">Imo the biggest hurdle present in making 5e more gritty is that the system fights to preserve explosive all or nothing rests where any interruption is just going to be met with &quot;well let's try again&quot;.3.x style linear recovery doesn't cover spell slots and 5e lacks the old time based mechanical hooks that made it so a trigger-happy caster could be interrupted at times that get in the way of a recovery.&nbsp; &nbsp; Ad&amp;d2e recovery of flat HP&nbsp; per day(?)∆ &amp; ten minutes of study/prayer per spell slot level could be adapted --BUT-- warlock complicates that in ways I'm inclined to not show sympathy towards and monk doesn't even fit either.Unfortunately without a &quot;see page xxx of book yyy&quot;&nbsp; entry both of the hypotheticals I gave above set the stage for players to argue with the GM should they feel their class is being treated unfairly by the rules he/she made over the unfair house rule being unfair rather than discussing the merits for the game that would come with a sidebar that carries responsibility.&nbsp; It's especially tough because pretty much everywhere that a gm would need to tweak things it comes in the form of a nerf so the gm has little they can spotlight for players to be happy about ∆ I'm out and about, can't check the wording</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9496973, member: 93670"] Imo the biggest hurdle present in making 5e more gritty is that the system fights to preserve explosive all or nothing rests where any interruption is just going to be met with "well let's try again". 3.x style linear recovery doesn't cover spell slots and 5e lacks the old time based mechanical hooks that made it so a trigger-happy caster could be interrupted at times that get in the way of a recovery. Ad&d2e recovery of flat HP per day(?)∆ & ten minutes of study/prayer per spell slot level could be adapted --BUT-- warlock complicates that in ways I'm inclined to not show sympathy towards and monk doesn't even fit either. Unfortunately without a "see page xxx of book yyy" entry both of the hypotheticals I gave above set the stage for players to argue with the GM should they feel their class is being treated unfairly by the rules he/she made over the unfair house rule being unfair rather than discussing the merits for the game that would come with a sidebar that carries responsibility. It's especially tough because pretty much everywhere that a gm would need to tweak things it comes in the form of a nerf so the gm has little they can spotlight for players to be happy about ∆ I'm out and about, can't check the wording [/QUOTE]

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