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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Utrecht" data-source="post: 122706" data-attributes="member: 1411">An interesting and fair assessment.However based off of the types of books that you recommended, I am not surprised that you do not like Martin.  You like the Good guys wearing white.Weis, Hickman, Eddings, Salvatore (and to a lesser extent Williams, but his Otherworld series was definately grey) provide this.I liked the book precicely for the reasons that you hated them - IMO when subjecated to tough/difficult choices, there are no virtuous men (or women).  The charcters are faced with difficult decisions and unlike much of high fantasy (Tolkien included) they make mistakes - and pay for them.........Further, I believe (based off of extensive reading) that Martin does an admirable job of reflecting the morality of the Dark/Middle Ages - which most certainly existed - and thrived for a long period - LG and CG type of heros simply do not exist - except in the paragon of our mid.Again - and always - YMMV (and likely will)</blockquote>