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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Avantgeek" data-source="post: 122963" data-attributes="member: 1178">Realism(edited to fix typos)Razuur stole a good deal of my thunder (no pun intended, Son of Thunder), so I'll just expand on that a bit...In commenting on the lack of a moral center exhibited by the characters in Martin's books Son of Thunder said, "I don't believe that that kind of society would survive very long in real life."The history of our world is cluttered with the type of behavior you decry. A simple example is Henry VIII and his adherence to his marital vows. As to the degree (and nature) of violence, I can see where that might bother some people. I'm currently reading "The Monks of War" by Desmond Seward (a history of military religious orders), and I can say that there is nothing I've read in Martin's fiction that doesn't have some real world historical analogue.The Middle Ages were not a nice time to be alive. People were treated (from a modern perspective) horribly, people did horrible things, and they did this (very frequently) to promote their own selfish goals.  I'm straying from my point, which, simply, is that history refutes the claim I quoted previously.Now, then, on to the books...The thing I hate about them (and Brooks with Shannara, and Jordan's Wheel of Time, and just about any other fantasy series) is that they just go on and on. I like beginnings, middles and endings. It seems to me that commercial considerations (which,  undeniably, have to be taken into account) have had altogether too much impact on modern fiction. Specifically, it seems as though the success of soap opera-esque series of novels has resulted in an epidemic of Writer's Diarrhea. Anywho...</blockquote>

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