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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Storminator" data-source="post: 123057" data-attributes="member: 305">Re: Well thought out rebuttals, I likeThis sort of depends on what you mean by "society existing." If you the standards of human behavior, that has been going on in Martin's world for a long time. But if you discount the political and religious upheavals, standards of human behavior didn't change that much from pre-biblical time to the Enlightenment in our world. That spans several thousand years.If you are talking about tightly organized societies, including the political and religious structures, Martin's world isn't all that stable. There have been a number of massive political upheavals: current struggle, the greyjoy rebellion, Robert's revolution, the Targaren's conquest, etc. There have also been numerous religious revolutions: current surge of the Fire god (and hinted return of the Green), older import of the Seven, the First Men, the Green Men.So I would say that Martin's world is fairly plausible.On other tangents:One of the things I really like about Martin's world is the great shifts in perspective. In the early part of the trilogy Jaime Lannister is pure villain. Nothing but bad things to say about him, and when the books shift focus to his character you're all set to hate him. And he turns out to be a pretty decent guy.Unfortunately, my predictive tool has gone to hell. I figured out that if any one faction looked to be in good shape it was in for a world of hurt in short order. And now, of course, everyone looks weak and vulnerable. So who goes down next?PS</blockquote>

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