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What I hate about A Song of Ice and Fire (Spoilers Ahead)
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<blockquote data-quote="Eryndur" data-source="post: 123357" data-attributes="member: 2910"><p>I don't think Martin comes across as not caring about his characters. Exactly the opposite, to my mind, in fact. He invests so much detail and nuance to each major character, that the reader becomes attached to the person, and then he/she is viciously killed off, sometimes in an off-handed way. The message I take from it is simple: bad things happen to good people. Not only that, but bad things happen to bad people, too. And just for kicks, he also tells us that good things happen to good and bad people. Usually, though, if a bad thing happens to a character, it is because of some flaw in that character.</p><p></p><p>It removes the deus ex machina of "destiny" and/or "fate" from the picture, which I think is refreshing. It's like real life. Bran gets crippled for life simply because he was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Compare to Rand al'Thor, who gosh by golly is the friggin' DRAGON, and I'd place my entire life savings on the sure fact that there's NO WAY he's going to die before Tarmon Gaidon. </p><p></p><p>Removing destiny keeps you on your toes. It keeps you guessing. It means nothing is sacred. Everyone can die. John Lennon: great guy, a living legend, a man who changed the face of popular culture. He's trucking along, living out his life, coming back from a studio session, and he's shot by some loony who took Catcher in the Rye to heart. Dead. No longer exists. Snuffed out. For no good reason. Happens all the time. And because I can relate to this happening all the time, it makes me relate even more to the characters in asoiaf. </p><p></p><p>And btw, I'm a big fan of WoT and MSaT. In fact, I find myself defending both authors (especially Jordan) from some of the more rabid asoiaf fans. It's a different type of fantasy, and one I do enjoy. But boy, when I picked up aGoT, it was like I stepped outside into a perfect summer's day. It was the epitome of refreshment. It made me realize that there is a whole other way to write fantasy.</p><p></p><p>Eryndur</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eryndur, post: 123357, member: 2910"] I don't think Martin comes across as not caring about his characters. Exactly the opposite, to my mind, in fact. He invests so much detail and nuance to each major character, that the reader becomes attached to the person, and then he/she is viciously killed off, sometimes in an off-handed way. The message I take from it is simple: bad things happen to good people. Not only that, but bad things happen to bad people, too. And just for kicks, he also tells us that good things happen to good and bad people. Usually, though, if a bad thing happens to a character, it is because of some flaw in that character. It removes the deus ex machina of "destiny" and/or "fate" from the picture, which I think is refreshing. It's like real life. Bran gets crippled for life simply because he was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Compare to Rand al'Thor, who gosh by golly is the friggin' DRAGON, and I'd place my entire life savings on the sure fact that there's NO WAY he's going to die before Tarmon Gaidon. Removing destiny keeps you on your toes. It keeps you guessing. It means nothing is sacred. Everyone can die. John Lennon: great guy, a living legend, a man who changed the face of popular culture. He's trucking along, living out his life, coming back from a studio session, and he's shot by some loony who took Catcher in the Rye to heart. Dead. No longer exists. Snuffed out. For no good reason. Happens all the time. And because I can relate to this happening all the time, it makes me relate even more to the characters in asoiaf. And btw, I'm a big fan of WoT and MSaT. In fact, I find myself defending both authors (especially Jordan) from some of the more rabid asoiaf fans. It's a different type of fantasy, and one I do enjoy. But boy, when I picked up aGoT, it was like I stepped outside into a perfect summer's day. It was the epitome of refreshment. It made me realize that there is a whole other way to write fantasy. Eryndur [/QUOTE]
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