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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thornir Alekeg" data-source="post: 1750555" data-attributes="member: 15651">I see what you mean, and I think Umbran's post gets right to it.  We have personal experience with being human and are easily able to mark the differences.  For other races, most people look to what the writers tell us about them.  I guess personally I never quite bought into the idea that all elves or all dwarves are pretty much the same, I saw the descriptions as a general tendency of the race and have often explored differences in my PCs or encouraged it in players I was DMing.  I'm sure a major factor in the sterotypes of the other races is a familiarity thing.  If you are publishing a campaign setting and you describe Dwarves as gentelle, easy-going people with a love of nature and woodland settings, you will create confusion and may actually lose sales as people flame you for "messing up" dwarves.  It is much easier to stick to what people know and make a few small adjustments to change the flavor a little.  I like the HARP idea of race and culture, but how does that work?  Does a sylvan dwarf still have darkvision?  Does a deep warren halfling get darkvision?  How are the racial "advantages" implemented versus cultural ones?  Does race simply become a physical description and culture is what matters?  Just curious.</blockquote>