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<blockquote data-quote="Mirtek" data-source="post: 6370966" data-attributes="member: 40810"><p>Did it? It's highly debatable how much of that truly came from the OGL. Even if WotC actually made extra profit from the OGL in the 3.x era, it's overall a big fat minus since Pathfinder appeared as a final consequence.</p><p></p><p>In hinsight reading some later interviews with former WotC staff from that time responsible for the OGL, it seems more and more as if it was never ended as being a good business decision but rather passionate gamer employees working against their own employer to "save D&D" even if it means going against their employers financial interests</p><p> And that's exactly what happened. While a lot of brands switched to D20, the additional profit for WotC from that was much lower than expected. And the market was flooded with D20 products that were 90% crap to the point it collapsed because even die hard D20 fans wouldn't buy any more third party products due to being burned way too often.</p><p> And a sure way to bankruptcy for all those publishers, since each campaign world has a smaller and smaller subset of pontential customers. TSR broke it's back to due supporting to many campaign settings and thus publishing each expensive to make supplement for only a small subset of their overall customers. And these were even official campaign settings.</p><p></p><p>There's a reason most D20 publishers were companies people were running as semi-professional hobby beside their real jobs, as they never made enough to pay even one full time employee (with only very few exceptions).</p><p></p><p> I am only opposed due to my feat it would kill the real D&D due to selling that many more copies</p><p></p><p> And are made by a garage start up that couldn't even get 1,000 backers for them on kickstarter (even though the money was sufficient in the end to found the project).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mirtek, post: 6370966, member: 40810"] Did it? It's highly debatable how much of that truly came from the OGL. Even if WotC actually made extra profit from the OGL in the 3.x era, it's overall a big fat minus since Pathfinder appeared as a final consequence. In hinsight reading some later interviews with former WotC staff from that time responsible for the OGL, it seems more and more as if it was never ended as being a good business decision but rather passionate gamer employees working against their own employer to "save D&D" even if it means going against their employers financial interests And that's exactly what happened. While a lot of brands switched to D20, the additional profit for WotC from that was much lower than expected. And the market was flooded with D20 products that were 90% crap to the point it collapsed because even die hard D20 fans wouldn't buy any more third party products due to being burned way too often. And a sure way to bankruptcy for all those publishers, since each campaign world has a smaller and smaller subset of pontential customers. TSR broke it's back to due supporting to many campaign settings and thus publishing each expensive to make supplement for only a small subset of their overall customers. And these were even official campaign settings. There's a reason most D20 publishers were companies people were running as semi-professional hobby beside their real jobs, as they never made enough to pay even one full time employee (with only very few exceptions). I am only opposed due to my feat it would kill the real D&D due to selling that many more copies And are made by a garage start up that couldn't even get 1,000 backers for them on kickstarter (even though the money was sufficient in the end to found the project). [/QUOTE]
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