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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6237433" data-attributes="member: 177">Sorry, Derren, but I'm making an example of something you said.Folks, you see this? "Disaster."  "Crisis."  These are emotionally-loaded words.  If you want this discussion to descend into entrenched dichotomy-warring* nonsense, with the attendant bans and thread closures and continued antagonism between folks, then by all means, continue using such language! But, let us be clear:  A storm killing thousands of people is a disaster.  A game that sold tens or hundreds of thousands of books isn't.  Your Mother-in-law deciding to show up for a visit a day earlier than announced may be a crisis, but a problem you can take multiple years to solve probably isn't.  Hyperbole is not the friend of reasoned discussion.  Continue to use hyperbole at your own risk.Thanks, all.  We now return you to your discussion of what you'd like to get out of the new game.*Dichotomy-warring:  the generalization of edition-warring.  3e vs 4e, WotC vs Paizo, Old School vs New School, are all examples of dichotomy wars.</blockquote>