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<blockquote data-quote="Dragonblade" data-source="post: 3822382" data-attributes="member: 2804">Frankly the anti-4e crowd just boggles my mind. I can listen to the criticisms. Many well thought out, but at the end of the day 4e just seems like its improving so much I dislike about 3e that I just don't get it. Even the money thing. I'm not rich and I probably have more money invested in 3e books that 95% of the people posting on ENWorld. But I'll still buy 4e.For me its like listening to a Geico commercial I heard the other day where a guy says he doesn't like Geico because he just doesn't like personal service. Thats what I feel when I hear some of the 4e complaints. I'm not trying to belittle your opinions, that's just how crazy it sounds to me. For those of you who hate 4e, you are probably equally dumbfounded by how people can like it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Most of the things that people say they don't like about 4e, are things I LOVE about it. No Vancian magic? YES! No level drain? YES! Epic is core? YES! No Save or Die? YES! No more monsters as characters? YES! Mostly at will and per encounter abilities? YES! Saves as defenses? YES!These all seem like such no-brainer improvements to me that not liking them is like telling me you love pollution and hate fresh air. I just don't get it. But you probably don't get why I like it so much! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I haven't even seen the rules yet, but I can say with confidence that I will never play 3e again once that 4e PHB comes out. This is the D&amp;D that I have always wanted and I have played every edition of the game over 20 years.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dragonblade, post: 3822382, member: 2804"] Frankly the anti-4e crowd just boggles my mind. I can listen to the criticisms. Many well thought out, but at the end of the day 4e just seems like its improving so much I dislike about 3e that I just don't get it. Even the money thing. I'm not rich and I probably have more money invested in 3e books that 95% of the people posting on ENWorld. But I'll still buy 4e. For me its like listening to a Geico commercial I heard the other day where a guy says he doesn't like Geico because he just doesn't like personal service. Thats what I feel when I hear some of the 4e complaints. I'm not trying to belittle your opinions, that's just how crazy it sounds to me. For those of you who hate 4e, you are probably equally dumbfounded by how people can like it. :) Most of the things that people say they don't like about 4e, are things I LOVE about it. No Vancian magic? YES! No level drain? YES! Epic is core? YES! No Save or Die? YES! No more monsters as characters? YES! Mostly at will and per encounter abilities? YES! Saves as defenses? YES! These all seem like such no-brainer improvements to me that not liking them is like telling me you love pollution and hate fresh air. I just don't get it. But you probably don't get why I like it so much! :) I haven't even seen the rules yet, but I can say with confidence that I will never play 3e again once that 4e PHB comes out. This is the D&D that I have always wanted and I have played every edition of the game over 20 years. [/QUOTE]

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