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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Balesir" data-source="post: 6239118" data-attributes="member: 27160">Conversely, what attracted me to 4E was the fact that the rules were integrated, clear and coordinated as a set of rules, in stark contrast to what I had seen in D&D hitherto. If the lore and background changes had not been even attempted I would, I think, have had almost the identical reaction to 4E as I did - "thank the gods we finally have a coherent rule set!"Adding options to 3.x would not have achieved this; the "features" of AEDU and so on being bolted onto 3.x basic systems would not have engaged me in anywhere near the same way. In fact, had 4E been written with the coherent, integrated systems it has but without AEDU I think I would still have liked it better than 3.x (though maybe not so much as to actually get me running a full campaign - I'd have stuck with other systems for that).</blockquote>