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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RFisher" data-source="post: 3569805" data-attributes="member: 3608">(^_^) But even if they weren't profitable enough for a big company from day one...I still contend that they are becoming even less so everyday. (^_^)It's such a laugh to me that (at least seemingly) without the d20 license a product can't say "the d20 system", but it can say "d20 game". Or the way Osric-based products can call themselves can say "First Edition" but not "AD&D".(Though I'm not convinced that "compatible with Trademark" isn't a perfectly legal claim sans license. As long as you're clear that you aren't claiming the trademark holder's endorsement or such.)My players have some third-party d20 products. (Maybe even some non-d20 products based on the d20 SRD.) Yet, they were still pretty fuzzy on what the presence or absence of the d20 logo on my new True20 book might imply....& I don't think that's a problem.</blockquote>