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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8070408" data-attributes="member: 6987520">A lot of it depends on the role this PC plays. In my 1E, I was a healer. I stayed back a lot, used my staff sling, etc. and then ran into the fray to help where I could.Now, in 5E, such a PC could be much more effective. He could weary heavy armor and shield, so even with the DEX 9 have an AC 17 (better with Shield of Faith). Sure, his speed would be less, but that doesn't have to be a huge factor depending on the game style. If he went Nature Domain, he could use Shillelagh to bump his attacks to +3 instead of +2 and get better weapon damage. With Sacred Flame or Toll the Dead, he could help out better at range as well.I don't find such a PC to be a grind, just a challenge. It isn't for everyone, but it does go against your idea that &quot;Below average individuals don't become adventurers.&quot; That was really just my point.EDIT: And we do use flanking rules. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8070408, member: 6987520"] A lot of it depends on the role this PC plays. In my 1E, I was a healer. I stayed back a lot, used my staff sling, etc. and then ran into the fray to help where I could. Now, in 5E, such a PC could be much more effective. He could weary heavy armor and shield, so even with the DEX 9 have an AC 17 (better with Shield of Faith). Sure, his speed would be less, but that doesn't have to be a huge factor depending on the game style. If he went Nature Domain, he could use Shillelagh to bump his attacks to +3 instead of +2 and get better weapon damage. With Sacred Flame or Toll the Dead, he could help out better at range as well. I don't find such a PC to be a grind, just a challenge. It isn't for everyone, but it does go against your idea that "[I]Below average individuals don't become adventurers.[/I]" That was really just my point. EDIT: And we do use flanking rules. :) [/QUOTE]

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