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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7253672" data-attributes="member: 996">Maybe even 4-10 or 5-12. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; The genius of 5e wasn't to widen the 'sweet spot' (it's been comparable in the classic game - I'd personally put 1e at 3-8th), and in 3e (E6, though with a good enough DM, 1-10 wasn't out of the question), in fact, the first couple levels fell out of it, again, after being shored up in 3e &amp; 4e, but in actually salting exp progression to speed through the lack-luster early levels and slow down and savor that sweet spot - before speeding up to get the double-digits over with... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;She didn't exactly cast spells, though, the equivalent of reading a ritual or scroll now and then......actually, she could've been a fairly typical 1e Bard.&nbsp; Start as a Thief (can use magic scrolls) for 5 levels or so, then train as a Fighter (Gabrielle did train with Xena and get pretty good), for up to 8 levels (IIRC), then the campaign ends before you actually become a Bard...&nbsp; perfect!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7253672, member: 996"] Maybe even 4-10 or 5-12. ;) The genius of 5e wasn't to widen the 'sweet spot' (it's been comparable in the classic game - I'd personally put 1e at 3-8th), and in 3e (E6, though with a good enough DM, 1-10 wasn't out of the question), in fact, the first couple levels fell out of it, again, after being shored up in 3e & 4e, but in actually salting exp progression to speed through the lack-luster early levels and slow down and savor that sweet spot - before speeding up to get the double-digits over with... ;) She didn't exactly cast spells, though, the equivalent of reading a ritual or scroll now and then... ...actually, she could've been a fairly typical 1e Bard. Start as a Thief (can use magic scrolls) for 5 levels or so, then train as a Fighter (Gabrielle did train with Xena and get pretty good), for up to 8 levels (IIRC), then the campaign ends before you actually become a Bard... perfect! [/QUOTE]

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