Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What (if anything) do you find "wrong" with 5E?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Emirikol" data-source="post: 8723104" data-attributes="member: 10638"><p>Another thing I don't like about 5e: My beef with the DMG not having a character replacement standard that isn't a DM-dick-move.</p><p>In 1974, you got punished for losing a character. You started over. Heaven forbid you were a good, loyal, player who kept notes and stayed in character--ha ha! You. Get. Screwed. Start over mutha-fatha! You' a' loser!</p><p></p><p>Fast-forward to 5e: Nothing has changed in the DMG. Without specificity, DM-culture still feels it is necessary to punish players who have a character die/retire/replaced. It's a minus 10% penalty to experience, or start over a level 1 lower, or whatever else the dick-DM decides to throw on a player. </p><p></p><p>Character death is ALWAYS a sore spot in campaign play (one-shots, who cares?) and the DMG needs a statement that "Standard is: your replacement character begins with 100% of previous character's xp." Instead, there is still this 1974 mentality of punishing players. The DMG does zero to deal with this single issue. "Let the DM decide." Sure, but how about we begin with a decency standard of not punishing players.</p><p></p><p>We wouldn't need "impossible to die" rules (3 saves? full overnight healing? instant 40 hit points from a HD heal..really?) if the roleplaying standard were updated in the DMG to "Don't punish a player for character death..oh, and remind them to always have a back-up so they can jump back into play as soon as they're ready."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Emirikol, post: 8723104, member: 10638"] Another thing I don't like about 5e: My beef with the DMG not having a character replacement standard that isn't a DM-dick-move. In 1974, you got punished for losing a character. You started over. Heaven forbid you were a good, loyal, player who kept notes and stayed in character--ha ha! You. Get. Screwed. Start over mutha-fatha! You' a' loser! Fast-forward to 5e: Nothing has changed in the DMG. Without specificity, DM-culture still feels it is necessary to punish players who have a character die/retire/replaced. It's a minus 10% penalty to experience, or start over a level 1 lower, or whatever else the dick-DM decides to throw on a player. Character death is ALWAYS a sore spot in campaign play (one-shots, who cares?) and the DMG needs a statement that "Standard is: your replacement character begins with 100% of previous character's xp." Instead, there is still this 1974 mentality of punishing players. The DMG does zero to deal with this single issue. "Let the DM decide." Sure, but how about we begin with a decency standard of not punishing players. We wouldn't need "impossible to die" rules (3 saves? full overnight healing? instant 40 hit points from a HD heal..really?) if the roleplaying standard were updated in the DMG to "Don't punish a player for character death..oh, and remind them to always have a back-up so they can jump back into play as soon as they're ready." [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What (if anything) do you find "wrong" with 5E?
Top