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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 8724496" data-attributes="member: 6855114">Ok let's see...Sustain extreme punishment and survive without a scratch to show the next day? Check.Fly? Check.Become invisible? Check.Shoot rays from a body part? Check.Throw fire or lightning? Check.Teleport? Check.Move fast and attack fast? Check.Cast a web? Check.and on and on and on....Fighter has: Champions, Battle masters, Eldritch Knight, Rune Knights, Psi- whatever and so much more. All able to emulate what super heroes do. Yes they have a fantasy flavour, I do not deny that. But they do super heroic stuff anyways. If you include the artificer you can even emulate Dr Doom and Iron Man and War Machine and on and on and on....And Rogue have their own versions of all of the above!Paladins are martials too and can do pretty amazing things.Do not let the fantasy flavour fool you. They are super heroes. In older editions, healing was from an outside source (the cleric of a god, a magical potions) and healing was not overnight or after a small stop of one hour to take a (non magical) cup of tea along with a nice cucumber sandwiche and cupcakes. If let to time alone, the 70hp fighter would be out of the business for about 6 weeks (almost 5 with a high constitution). This was the mitigating factor that prevented people from seeing fantasy heroes as super heroes. Now, that mitigation is gone.I am not on the side of HP = Meat. But at some point, luck and such run out. When a 120 hp fighter is down to a few HPs. That fighter is covered from head to toes with bruises, scratches, strained muscle and many other conditions. A night sleep and all is gone???? You only see that in super hero comics. If said character would heal only 2hp per day without magic it would take shy of two months to recover. Much more believable don't you think? (There are reasons why MMA fighters and Boxers do not fight every day...)</blockquote>

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