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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 8725061" data-attributes="member: 6877472">The only thing I've really seen out of Tier 1 Monks is that they get beat up a little more often due to softer AC and average hit points.&nbsp; They can occasionally have bursts of awesome, when they spend Ki, but without it, they really don't shine at all.Martial/Caster isn't an issue in low Tier play.&nbsp; It's not until casters can reliably solve problems or radically alter encounters that you start to notice any issues.I want to say Tier 3 is probably where it's noticeable.&nbsp; I had an interesting experience in Tier 2 when I started using things like sleet storm regularly in AL; apparently, up til that point, most casters were only concerned with dealing damage in my area, by all accounts.Once I started making combats dramatically easier, the AL model of short adventures was pretty much broken in half, especially when other casters started seeing what I was doing, and piggy backing off of me to drop damage dealing zones as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 8725061, member: 6877472"] The only thing I've really seen out of Tier 1 Monks is that they get beat up a little more often due to softer AC and average hit points. They can occasionally have bursts of awesome, when they spend Ki, but without it, they really don't shine at all. Martial/Caster isn't an issue in low Tier play. It's not until casters can reliably solve problems or radically alter encounters that you start to notice any issues. I want to say Tier 3 is probably where it's noticeable. I had an interesting experience in Tier 2 when I started using things like [I]sleet storm[/I] regularly in AL; apparently, up til that point, most casters were only concerned with dealing damage in my area, by all accounts. Once I started making combats dramatically easier, the AL model of short adventures was pretty much broken in half, especially when other casters started seeing what I was doing, and piggy backing off of me to drop damage dealing zones as well. [/QUOTE]

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