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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8727755" data-attributes="member: 23751">I don't want to have to give the players alternatives to magic items, though.  By baking them into the math, you must give the PCs something or else they are way behind the curve.  I think it's better not to bake them in, but give lots of details to the DM on how they will affect balance.I totally agree.  I've handed out some major items in this campaign and haven't had any issues.  The party just hit 10th level and they have 2 items that would be considered artifacts by 5e, plus a few other items.  What's interesting is that I have no problems in this campaign, but when I handed out weapons with +s, they went through like leveled encounters like butter.  Magic weapons have much more impact than powerful items that have other types of abilities and spells.</blockquote>