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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8729464" data-attributes="member: 22779">But, again, context matters.In earlier editions, level 4 was a significant chunk of play time.&nbsp; Easily several months of sessions (depending on how many sessions/month you played).&nbsp; For me, that would likely be about 20-25 sessions to hit level 4 in 3e.&nbsp; In 5e, 4th level should be your 10th session at the latest.&nbsp; You are expected to bump from 1st to 3rd by your 3rd or 4th session, and 4th probably only a few sessions after that.&nbsp; Certainly a LOT sooner than you would in other editions.My point is, pointing to the levels isn't always the best gauge for things.&nbsp; Additionally, I'd point out that you included 2e in this.&nbsp; I'm not really sure why since 2e frontloaded vritually every single thing you character will ever get for the entire lifespan of the character into 1st level.&nbsp; What decisions does your 2e fighter make after 1st level?&nbsp; Or cleric?&nbsp; Or wizard?&nbsp; Thief?&nbsp; Well, I suppose at least thief got to decide where to spend his thieves skill points on, but, that was about it.&nbsp; But, your other classes were locked in at 1st level and you got zero choices as you level up.&nbsp; Other than spell selection I suppose.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8729464, member: 22779"] But, again, context matters. In earlier editions, level 4 was a significant chunk of play time. Easily several months of sessions (depending on how many sessions/month you played). For me, that would likely be about 20-25 sessions to hit level 4 in 3e. In 5e, 4th level should be your 10th session at the latest. You are expected to bump from 1st to 3rd by your 3rd or 4th session, and 4th probably only a few sessions after that. Certainly a LOT sooner than you would in other editions. My point is, pointing to the levels isn't always the best gauge for things. Additionally, I'd point out that you included 2e in this. I'm not really sure why since 2e frontloaded vritually every single thing you character will ever get for the entire lifespan of the character into 1st level. What decisions does your 2e fighter make after 1st level? Or cleric? Or wizard? Thief? Well, I suppose at least thief got to decide where to spend his thieves skill points on, but, that was about it. But, your other classes were locked in at 1st level and you got zero choices as you level up. Other than spell selection I suppose. [/QUOTE]

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