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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8732901" data-attributes="member: 63508">The thing I don't get is why me and others saying 5e is bad at supporting the fantasy subgenre and archetypes of the last 20 or so years is so controversial.5e can be:SuccessfulANDPopularANDHave a core that was very bad at the creation of berserker, beastmaster, monk, sorcerer, warlock characters, complex and varied interpretations of monster races, and replication intrigue, war and superheroic fantasyIt's not incorrect to say the 5th edition playtest focused on the human, elf, dwarf,&nbsp; halfling, fighter, rogue, cleric, and wizard in the herioc fantasy and sword and sorcery subgenre and a huge chunk of the people who currently play 5th edition were not involved in the playtest. And this all may have skewed the. edition's design.I mean, look at the classes in &quot;What class do you feel people argue about the most?&quot; poll that are high and low pecentage.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 8732901, member: 63508"] The thing I don't get is why me and others saying 5e is bad at supporting the fantasy subgenre and archetypes of the last 20 or so years is so controversial. 5e can be: Successful AND Popular AND Have a core that was very bad at the creation of berserker, beastmaster, monk, sorcerer, warlock characters, complex and varied interpretations of monster races, and replication intrigue, war and superheroic fantasy It's not incorrect to say the 5th edition playtest focused on the human, elf, dwarf, halfling, fighter, rogue, cleric, and wizard in the herioc fantasy and sword and sorcery subgenre and a huge chunk of the people who currently play 5th edition were not involved in the playtest. And this all may have skewed the. edition's design. I mean, look at the classes in "What class do you feel people argue about the most?" poll that are high and low pecentage. [/QUOTE]

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