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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Slaved" data-source="post: 3439280" data-attributes="member: 43358">So if someone had a spell where you got an extra attack right now but skipped your next turn that would be good enough for you? At what levels would it be useful? I am guessing mostly only under about level 5 or so.There are not many situations or characters that I have played where I would not choose to resist. I would be trying to use that spell offensively by casting it on enemy forces <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> A mass version would be interesting in quite a few fights. Get reach for your guys, have them stand outside of the reach of others and spam that spell. Your guys get an extra attack, the other guys who fail their save do nothing.Snakes swiftness is much better than this proposed option since you do not miss your next turn (right?).Although even that comparison is a bit off. Sometimes white raven tactics simply will not help you due to how the initiative order is set up. You can play with the initiative order with a bit of planning of course but that can and will bite you back on occasion.Considering how often I would expect the aptitude to come up the two come out mostly the same over all. I do not see any problem.</blockquote>