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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8559684" data-attributes="member: 7032025">And I hate that people can't look at simple facts right in the face.When it's presented like an excuse, well, it sounds like an excuse.And yet, the facts are there, and everyone accepts them except people looking for excuses not to look them straight in the face. There was no need for Essentials (contrary to 3.5, as 3e was clearly an unfinished product, whereas 4e was really well put together from the start), there was no market growth, so WotC tried the only thing they could think of, trying to get more money for more or less the same things from the same people than just a few years earlier, and that was a clear signal that the concept was collapsing under its own weight for lack of market.Again, not a slight on the quality of the product, it was really well put together, but on a concept that, frankly, is way better supported by the computer medium.</blockquote>