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<blockquote data-quote="teitan" data-source="post: 8560542" data-attributes="member: 3457"><p>Yeah but even then when there WAS a D&D release it was back to number 1 for the next month or so before dipping back down so publication schedule had something to do with it. This trend continued with the adventures that were system neutral for Baldur's Gate and Siege of Dragonspear with the Next preview rules in them. So the Batman vs Spider-man analogy still stands. There was no Batman last week so Spider-man was more popular than Batman, there is Batman this week so Batman will stomp Spider-man for a few weeks and eventually there won't be either in the theater but Batman is the 800lb Gorilla of comic book movies. That is the standard bearer for the genre and while others have outgrossed in the meantime, it always comes back swinging and this is the first Batman proper since Dark Knight Rises after the Batman vs Superman sort of failure (872.2 million is massive) as representative of the 4e run and Justice League as Essentials.</p><p></p><p>Now I am not saying lack of publication killed D&D or trying to compare the model for 5e to late 4e. By then 4e was a confusing mess as far as what to buy, the errata, the sheer volume of material and the insistence and necessity of the DDI subscription to get things right. It was ahead of its time really because... 5e succeeded because of D&D Beyond, a slow publication schedule and higher focus on quality products with stringent criteria and telling a story. Then VTT helped D&D succeeded in the pandemic due to ease of access and the simplicity of the product line. "This is the core rule book set and these are adventures you can play if you want". That small product line that COULD have been a curse is a blessing to 5e in my opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="teitan, post: 8560542, member: 3457"] Yeah but even then when there WAS a D&D release it was back to number 1 for the next month or so before dipping back down so publication schedule had something to do with it. This trend continued with the adventures that were system neutral for Baldur's Gate and Siege of Dragonspear with the Next preview rules in them. So the Batman vs Spider-man analogy still stands. There was no Batman last week so Spider-man was more popular than Batman, there is Batman this week so Batman will stomp Spider-man for a few weeks and eventually there won't be either in the theater but Batman is the 800lb Gorilla of comic book movies. That is the standard bearer for the genre and while others have outgrossed in the meantime, it always comes back swinging and this is the first Batman proper since Dark Knight Rises after the Batman vs Superman sort of failure (872.2 million is massive) as representative of the 4e run and Justice League as Essentials. Now I am not saying lack of publication killed D&D or trying to compare the model for 5e to late 4e. By then 4e was a confusing mess as far as what to buy, the errata, the sheer volume of material and the insistence and necessity of the DDI subscription to get things right. It was ahead of its time really because... 5e succeeded because of D&D Beyond, a slow publication schedule and higher focus on quality products with stringent criteria and telling a story. Then VTT helped D&D succeeded in the pandemic due to ease of access and the simplicity of the product line. "This is the core rule book set and these are adventures you can play if you want". That small product line that COULD have been a curse is a blessing to 5e in my opinion. [/QUOTE]
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