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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5970567" data-attributes="member: 8835">Staying away from the religion aspect, this gets into the what if reality isn't...It could be a simulation, like the Matrix.It could be like the holodeck, in that what we manipulate is projected by something else.As Scott Adams theorizes (non-seriously), we could have virtualized ourselves and we are running in a simulation based on where we came from.I posit that reality is most likely that which we observe (or do fancy sciency stuff with colliding protons and numbers to detect a Higgs Boson).&nbsp; Super realities that contain this one MIGHT exist, but the probability that they do is low, due to the inability to detect, interact or manipulate them.&nbsp; Effectively, they don't exist.It's kind of like Time Machines.&nbsp; If they existed, people would be popping in and we'd know about it?&nbsp; The probability that Time Machines exist AND people are super careful about it and there's no mistakes is about as likely as any of the other complex endeavors Man has set out on having zero impact or visibility on the world like the Shuttle Program, the Manhattan project or drilling for oil.&nbsp; If Time Machines exist (presumably in the future, but by their nature, effectively through out all time) then somebody will do something noticeable with one eventually.As for the Earth being the center, that would likely get ruled out by virtue of how humans organize things relatively.The Earth and other planets revolve around the sun.&nbsp; Once that fact is known, man instinctively moves the center of his univers to the Sun, and not the Earth.&nbsp; Once we realized the Sun was in a Galazy that circled the center, the Galaxy became the center.&nbsp; Once it was known that the galaxy and all others were blown out from a central Bing Bang, that became the center.All this becomes more obvious when drawn out.&nbsp; The eye instinctively sees the circles and shapes and deduces what the center is.&nbsp; You'd have to be wired differently to see a solar system diagram and insist that the Earth was at the center when viewing the circles around the sun.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Janx, post: 5970567, member: 8835"] Staying away from the religion aspect, this gets into the what if reality isn't... It could be a simulation, like the Matrix. It could be like the holodeck, in that what we manipulate is projected by something else. As Scott Adams theorizes (non-seriously), we could have virtualized ourselves and we are running in a simulation based on where we came from. I posit that reality is most likely that which we observe (or do fancy sciency stuff with colliding protons and numbers to detect a Higgs Boson). Super realities that contain this one MIGHT exist, but the probability that they do is low, due to the inability to detect, interact or manipulate them. Effectively, they don't exist. It's kind of like Time Machines. If they existed, people would be popping in and we'd know about it? The probability that Time Machines exist AND people are super careful about it and there's no mistakes is about as likely as any of the other complex endeavors Man has set out on having zero impact or visibility on the world like the Shuttle Program, the Manhattan project or drilling for oil. If Time Machines exist (presumably in the future, but by their nature, effectively through out all time) then somebody will do something noticeable with one eventually. As for the Earth being the center, that would likely get ruled out by virtue of how humans organize things relatively. The Earth and other planets revolve around the sun. Once that fact is known, man instinctively moves the center of his univers to the Sun, and not the Earth. Once we realized the Sun was in a Galazy that circled the center, the Galaxy became the center. Once it was known that the galaxy and all others were blown out from a central Bing Bang, that became the center. All this becomes more obvious when drawn out. The eye instinctively sees the circles and shapes and deduces what the center is. You'd have to be wired differently to see a solar system diagram and insist that the Earth was at the center when viewing the circles around the sun. [/QUOTE]

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